Return-Path: Received: (qmail 28529 invoked from network); 2 May 2001 10:06:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 2 May 2001 10:06:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 11418 invoked from network); 2 May 2001 10:06:19 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 2 May 2001 10:06:19 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14ut8F-0007uE-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 02 May 2001 10:41:15 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be ([134.58.10.6]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14ut8C-0007u9-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 02 May 2001 10:41:12 +0100 Received: from LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be (LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.80.15]) by mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id LAA11432 for ; Wed, 2 May 2001 11:40:39 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.20010502104150.2dc7f9ec@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be> X-Sender: pb623250@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 10:41:50 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Rik Strobbe" Subject: Re: LF: Re: more Wolf tests In-reply-to: <3AEFD6C6.26493.1590F2@localhost> References: <3AEF2391.4DCDA493@usa.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Hello Mike & group, While WOLF is in an 'experimental stage' the carrier can be usefull for tuning purposes. But if you can detect a 2 or 3 second carrier, a DFCW QSO won't take more time than a WOLF QSO. So why make a simple thing difficult ? But wasn't it the (cl)aim that WOLF would be superior to primitive modes such as QRSS and DFCW ? If I remember well WOLF was given a 10dB credit over QRSS at 10 sec./dot, so assuming you want to copy a WOLF signal that is just 'at the edge' a 100 sec. carrier would be needed to make it visible with spectrogram-like software. 73, Rik ON7YD >Yes. That is exactly why I have suggested that a WOLF transmission should >have a few seconds of unmodulated carrier (or perhaps identifiably modulated >- wobble) every few minutes. Also that any GUI-based WOLF front end should >include a spectrogram-type window. This would allow WOLF transmissions to >be seen without knowing in advance that they were there, and would also help >frequency alignment. This would overcome one of the real difficulties in using >the mode for random QSOs. > >Mike, G3XDV (IO91VT) >http://www.lf.thersgb.net