Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20986 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2001 14:13:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 26 Jan 2001 14:13:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 20100 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2001 14:07:11 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 26 Jan 2001 14:07:11 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14M9QP-0003rM-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 14:00:25 +0000 Received: from mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be ([134.58.10.6]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14M9Q8-0003rG-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 14:00:08 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be (LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.80.15]) by mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id OAA36876 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 14:59:52 +0100 Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.20010126155050.21d74c42@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be> X-Sender: pb623250@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 15:50:50 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Rik Strobbe" Subject: LF: Time efficient code In-reply-to: <001001c08794$b935e340$b6ab883e@lvm> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: If we want to develope a new 'code' for a time effecient mHz bandwidth modulation first thing we should do is to make a list of requirements. My list would be : - suitable with non-linear amplifiers : for sake of efficiency and simplicity of the amplifier - be able to transmit at least 45 different 'characters' : - if we want to use non-linear amps we can only transmit one 'tone' at a time, so each character needs to be transitted a a sequence of 'tones'. The more 'tones' you use the shorter the sequence per character will be but the larger the required bandwidth, so we will have to find a compromize between bandwidth and speed. eg. 47 characters can be transmitted with 7 tones and 2 sequences per character (49 posibilities) or as 4 tones and 3 sequences per character (64 posibilities). An important question is : is it worth to make things that complicated ? Assume the transmission speed is 60 seconds dotlength. In that case the time needed to transmit 'CQ ON7YD K' would take : 114 minutes in QRSS 40 minutes in DFCW 30 minutes in '7 tone mode' if we have a space between characters 20 minutes in '7 tone mode' if we have no space between characters 40 minutes in '4 tone mode' if we have a space between characters 30 minutes in '4 tone mode' if we have no space between characters >From the above is clear the step from QRSS to DFCW is significant (time reduced to 35%), but the difference between DFCW and the 'multi tone modes' is between nil and 50%, so we should have to go to a rather complicated system (7 tones, no spacing) to have a significant gain. Other opinions please ... 73, Rik ON7YD