Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8850 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2001 09:04:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by extortion.plus.net with SMTP; 26 Jan 2001 09:04:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 5799 invoked from network); 26 Jan 2001 09:06:50 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior with SMTP; 26 Jan 2001 09:06:50 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14M4ia-0002LX-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 08:58:52 +0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be ([134.58.10.6]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14M4iZ-0002LS-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 08:58:51 +0000 Received: from LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be (LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.80.15]) by mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id JAA15620 for ; Fri, 26 Jan 2001 09:58:29 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.20010126104930.2c07643c@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be> X-Sender: pb623250@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2001 10:49:30 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Rik Strobbe" Subject: LF: VA3LK seen in ON In-reply-to: <007201c08735$5121f410$0a00a8c0@ThreeLakes.ca> References: <4.1.20010125141716.017e5680@pop.tiscalinet.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Hi Larry, I had a look for you this morning and saw a interrupted trace popping up just over the noisefloor. QRN was bad, but I could make a VA out of it (with some imagination). I'm pretty sure to have seen your signal and will continue monitoring for the next days. If condx go up a bit and QRN down a bit I should be able to get a clear copy. More general : it seems that it is possible to cross the pond with stations running less than 1W ERP (believe that BMU and AQC are abt 400-500mW) but it needs rather long dotlengths (1 minute). So we want to take the next step to 2-way communication we might need a more 'time efficient' mode than straight morse code. DFCW is about 3 times faster but it needs 2 frequencies, a shift of 0.1Hz would be sufficient. More complicated 'coding' using multiple frequencies could even speed up things more, using 4 frequencies we could code 64 characters in 3 'dots'. Based on the experience that a 'very basic' QRSS QSO takes about 20 minutes at 3 sec. dotlength this would mean over 6 hours at 1 minute dotlength. With DFCW this could be reduced to about 2 hours, seems acceptable to me. Advantage of DFCW over more complicated codes is that it is 'readable' on screen if you know morse code. 73, Rik