Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26062 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2001 15:21:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 18 Jan 2001 15:21:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 5259 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2001 15:15:24 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior with SMTP; 18 Jan 2001 15:15:24 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14JGed-0001dm-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:07:11 +0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be ([134.58.10.6]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14JGeZ-0001dh-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:07:07 +0000 Received: from LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be (LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.80.15]) by mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id QAA151064 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:06:55 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.20010118165806.2d6f743a@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be> X-Sender: pb623250@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:58:06 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Rik Strobbe" Subject: Re: LF: Dipole antenna at LF In-reply-to: <3A66F6F9.12573.101AF15@localhost> References: <65AECDF1F89AD411900400508BFC869F0D7529@pdw-mail-1.dera.gov.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Hello Mike, When I got it correct you ran a long (fence) wire as a monopole against ground. I believe that a dipole could have a very different behaviour. With a monopole use the ground as counterweight so the 'return current' has to come via the (lossy) ground, while for a dipole this is not the case. But I would go for a much longer length than the 100m Andy suggests, best would be a fullsize dipole if you have the space and about 1km of wire. Suggestion : look out for an abandoned phone line. 73, Rik ON7YD At 14:00 18/01/01 -0000, G3XDV wrote: >I tried something like this in GW in the early days of 73khz but it >was very poor. Rock may be a poor conductor but it still appears to >absorb most of the RF. And it wasn't just that my antenna was >horizontal as in fact it went up a steep hillside at some 30 degrees. I >tried it again when trying to work MI0AYZ as a deperate attempt >when my kite failed to fly - it was still poor. Worked fine on receive, >though. > >Depressing as it may be, Marconi got it right 100 years ago and we >have failed to improve on his findings. There must be another magic >antenna out there somewhere but that isn't it.