Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2730 invoked from network); 22 May 2000 14:11:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by teachers.core.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 22 May 2000 14:11:12 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12tsph-0002Kr-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 May 2000 15:05:25 +0100 Received: from mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be ([134.58.10.6]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12tspg-0002Kl-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 May 2000 15:05:24 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be (LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.80.15]) by mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id QAA29376 for ; Mon, 22 May 2000 16:05:22 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.20000522160058.2e9fb5bc@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be> X-Sender: pb623250@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 16:00:58 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Rik Strobbe" Subject: Re: LF: Horizontal polarisation In-reply-to: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Hello Dave and the others, I think that the discussion about antennas with a significant horizontal part is not 'if' they work (they do work, signals of OH1TN, DJ9IE etc. prove so), but 'why' or 'how' they work. The simple 'toploaded vertical' approach seems not correct to me, because according to improved current distribution the gain (versus a pure vertical of the same height) can be no more than 6dB. Also beyong a certain lenght of the topload (of approxemately 5 times the height) there should be very little gain. Some possible solutions were already given : - horizontal polarized component - larger 'footprint', reducing losses As this can be a very interesting antenna (for those have the proper space) it might be worth trying to understand the 'why' and 'how'. 73, Rik ON7YD > Dear all. > >Being a topband mobileer for many years I am used to using antennas that >are a tiny fraction of a wavelength. From an experiment I once did to >try to improve \"sky-wave\" from the whip, I can well believe there will >be a noticeable difference between a true vertical and an inverted L. > ... >73. Dave G3YXM.