Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17134 invoked from network); 9 May 2000 09:37:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by grants.core.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 9 May 2000 09:37:22 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12p6IZ-0005hO-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 May 2000 10:27:27 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be ([134.58.10.6]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12p6IV-0005hJ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 May 2000 10:27:24 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be (LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.80.15]) by mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id LAA715326 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 11:27:04 +0200 Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.20000509112258.232ff9b2@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Sender: pb623250@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 11:22:58 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Rik Strobbe" Subject: Re: LF: Spectran accuracy In-reply-to: <3916F361.A653D43F@netscapeonline.co.uk> References: <3617AC3245C2D1118A840000F805359C017528B5@pdw-mercury-1.dera.gov.uk> <3.0.1.16.20000505141455.21ffadcc@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: At 17:03 8/05/00 +0000, G3KEV wrote: >Tell me Rik, why is there no qrss(LMCW) when the band is noisy like lots of >qrn/static about. >It should not be a problem if you can read signals 20 db below the noise. >My ANSWER after monitoring and experimentation with spectran is that the qrn >chops the long dashes and you cannot be sure if it was lots of dots. This does >not happen with normal cw because one can read words in between the crashes >and conduct a qso even with a weak signal. High static levels (thunderstroms) do not affect QRSS or DFCW as bad as normal speed CW. Static crashes are very short (milleseconds) compared to the 3 second dot length and appear as vertical lines on the screen, no problem to tell them apart from the QRSS / DFCW signal that forms a horizontal line. During the last weeks several hams in the UK, Belgium and Germany were able to copy the 10mW ERP signal from IK1ODO in DFCW at distances up to 1000km. Nobody claimed to be able to hear the signal. When I copied a perfect 'O' signal from Marco (last Friday) static noise was very bad. If someone is interested to compare the abilities of DFCW versus fast CW I can put up a 5mW ERP beacon that transmits DFCW (at 3 seconds/dot) and fast CW (at 12WPM) sequentialy for one evening. 73, Rik ON7YD 73, Rik ON7YD