Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6218 invoked from network); 14 Apr 2000 13:10:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by bells.core.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 14 Apr 2000 13:10:19 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12g5kj-0000Uh-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 14:03:17 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be ([134.58.10.6]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12g5kW-0000Uc-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 14:03:04 +0100 Received: from LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be (LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.80.15]) by mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id PAA39564 for ; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 15:02:43 +0200 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.20000414145904.49578978@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be> X-Sender: pb623250@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (16) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 14:59:04 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Rik Strobbe" Subject: Re: LF: Discussion, please, Coast location vs DCF39 In-reply-to: <004d01bfa608$03c27cd0$0a00a8c0@server1.ThreeLakes.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: There seems to be a serious difference in propagation between the VE-UK and VE-central Europe. CHF was often reported in the UK with signals up to 10dB better than I could copy it and if I remind well the difference with DK8KW (who lives pretty close to DCF39) was even more. A 10dB less path loss from west-UK seems realistic. 73, Rik ON7YD At 07:53 14/04/00 -0400, VA3LK wrote: >There has been much discussion about Antennas and ERP, would you all humour >me with a discussion, as vigorous as possible, on TWO issues of path loss... > >The first, the difference in path loss from DCF39 Transmitter location in >Germany to a good location on the west coast of the UK, EI, GW, G, GM....... > >and second, the difference in path loss from the EAST coast of Newfoundland >from an inland site in Eastern Ontario. My home is about 1600 kms west of >the Newfoundland coast.