Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5403 invoked from network); 30 Aug 1999 13:14:11 -0000 Received: from magnus.plus.net.uk (HELO magnus.force9.net) (195.166.128.27) by murphys.force9.net with SMTP; 30 Aug 1999 13:14:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 8326 invoked from network); 30 Aug 1999 13:12:15 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by magnus.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 30 Aug 1999 13:12:15 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11LQqM-00008n-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 13:47:26 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from mailserv.cc.kuleuven.ac.be ([134.58.8.44]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11LQqL-00008i-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 13:47:25 +0100 Received: from LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be (LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.80.15]) by mailserv.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id OAA10442 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 14:53:41 +0200 Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.19990830144810.08efd61c@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Sender: pb623250@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 14:48:10 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Rik Strobbe" Subject: LF: Multiple Tuned Vertical : some more maths In-reply-to: <002301bef040$442b1580$aff4f482@win95.swipnet.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: I did some calculations on a more 'real-world' model of a MTV antenna, assuming that the second tuned section has its own radial system (loss resistance = R2) +------+---------+ | | | +-+ ----- +-+ L' | | ----- C | | L' | | | | | +-+ +-+ +-+ | | | R1 | | +-+ +-+ | | | | R2 -----+ | +-+ Z = | | ------------+---------+ If we further assume that : - both inductors are equal and have the double reactance as C - the reactances of C and L are large compared to R1 and R2 The the result of the calculations is Z = 4 x R1 + R2 That means that only the 'R1' component is quadrupled, the 'loss resistance' R2 of the second tuned section is just added ! I don't want to bore the whole LF-group with the maths, but I'm willing to mail it direct to those interested (it's only about 5 lines of basic math). 73, Rik ON7YD Rik Strobbe ON7YD rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.ac.be Villadreef 14 B-3128 Baal BELGIUM (JO20IX)