Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24356 invoked from network); 24 Aug 1999 16:44:53 +0100 Received: from purple.force9.net (195.166.128.228) by guiness.force9.net with SMTP; 24 Aug 1999 16:44:53 +0100 Received: (qmail 11263 invoked from network); 24 Aug 1999 15:44:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by purple.force9.net with SMTP; 24 Aug 1999 15:44:22 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11JIWv-0004st-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 16:30:33 +0100 X-Priority: 3 Received: from mailserv.cc.kuleuven.ac.be ([134.58.8.44]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11JIWu-0004so-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 16:30:32 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be (LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.80.15]) by mailserv.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id RAA17412 for ; Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:36:42 +0200 Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.19990824173123.2d0f36f4@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Sender: pb623250@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 17:31:23 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Rik Strobbe" Subject: Re: LF: Multiple tuned vertical In-reply-to: <37C2AE82.20DCA90F@bellatlantic.net> References: <000601beeba0$859e6e80$ed29f482@win95.swipnet.se><3.0.1.16.19990824093942.2dcf930a@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: At 10:38 24/08/99 -0400, you wrote: >> If it is not asked too much I would be interested in a copy of the Multiple >> Tuning Antenna too. > >in the mail today :-) thanks >> Regarding the meander-antenna : if you scale all the described antennas to >> 136kHz you still get 'monster-antennas'. But the fact that they manage to >> increase the radiation resistance by a factor up to 20 (compared to an >> simple vertical of the same height) is impressive. I would be more than >> happy to get my radiation resistance up to some 100 milliohm instead of the >> actual 45 millohm. > >20 x would be almost 0.1 ohm, would it not? > 20 times 45 millohm would be even close to 1 Ohm >It seems to me that, somewhat like drafts looking for the fountain of >eternal youth, all of us are always searching for the perfect small LF >antenna :-) >(the price Faust paid was a little to steep for me...) Regarding electrical antennas the magic key is 'increase the radiation resistance'. If you cannot increase the height than you have to look for alternatives as 'multiple-tuned' or 'meander' antennas. But I'm afraid you won't get it for free, there will be some drawbacks. For the 'multiple-tuned' antenna it is (at least) the many big inductors you will need. I intend to construct an new (low-loss) loading coil for my antenna. When that is ready I will do some tests with a 'double-tuned' antenna with the 2 downleads about 22 meter separated, I wonder what I will gain. Later I will give the meander-antenna a try and sure I will find out what the drawbacks are on that one .... .. >See you in October at Winsor? I'am afraid not, I will be visiting KH6 and W6/W0 in october. 73, Rik ON7YD PS : still haven't you postal address. I will be happy to send you some USD so I do not have to feel guilty if I ask you for copies.