Return-Path: Received: (qmail 28485 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 10:08:04 +0100 Received: from magnus.plus.net.uk (HELO magnus.force9.net) (195.166.128.27) by guiness.force9.net with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 10:08:04 +0100 Received: (qmail 25371 invoked from network); 28 Apr 1999 09:09:09 -0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com (194.75.130.70) by magnus.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 28 Apr 1999 09:09:09 -0000 Received: from troy.blacksheep.org ([194.75.183.50] ident=root) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 2.04 #3) id 10cQIR-0000VU-00; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:06:23 +0100 Received: (from root@localhost) by troy.blacksheep.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) id JAA03457 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 09:06:28 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (root@post.unica.co.uk [194.75.183.70]) by troy.blacksheep.org (8.6.12/8.6.12) with ESMTP id JAA03453 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 09:06:26 GMT Received: from mailserv.cc.kuleuven.ac.be ([134.58.8.44]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 2.04 #3) id 10cQIH-0000VR-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:06:13 +0100 Received: from LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be (LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.80.15]) by mailserv.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id LAA13191 for ; Wed, 28 Apr 1999 11:10:54 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.19990428100407.080f61f6@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be> X-Sender: pb623250@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Wed, 28 Apr 1999 10:04:07 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Rik Strobbe" Subject: Re: LF: DF3LP homepages, update... In-reply-to: <37262215.C0176325@nephro.uni-kiel.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org At 22:46 27/04/99 +0200, you wrote: >Hello LowFers, > >Added a gallery of pictures to my homepages: > >http://www.qsl.net/df3lp > >(Antenna, shack, etc.) > >Hope it works and will be of interest... > >54°16'N / 10°04'E, JO54ag >73 es gl de Peter, DF3LP > > Hi Peter & LF-gang, I just had a look on Peter's homepage (very nice !) and especially to the pictures of his 'birch-three' LF-antenna. First of all I have to confirm that the antenna works fine as Peter has a very good signal with me, compared to the power he runs. The antenna can be briefly described as a T-antenna, 17m high in the middle with 2 x 30m topload ending at 13/11m hight. The loading coil is at 12m hight. Having a closer look at the antenna I noticed that is special is some ways : 1. The vertical section just runs within a tree. 2. The feeding-point is at 12m (just below the loading coil), the antenna is fed by coax with the inner conductor of the coax connected to the loading coil and the shield of the coax connected to a metal pipe that goes the 12m down toward the earth and is grounded there. So the lower 12m of the vertical part is just a connection to the ground. This might explain why the antenna is working so well and is not suffering from too much loss in the three it is mounted in. In some way it also confirms the 'theory' that the goal of a good LF-antenna is to bring as much 'power' as possible as high as possible. According to this theory the ony function of the vertical part of the antenna is to 'transport' the power to the top (and any radiation by the vertical part could be considered as waste). An alternative way to look at it is to make a difference between the creation of the electric and the magnetic field : The electric field is created by voltage where the magnetic field is created by current. So the top-section of the antenna (all above the loading coil) has a high voltage and there is a current flowing through it, so this section will create an electric and a magnetic field. But the 12m vertical section going from the loading coil down to the ground is at zero voltage but it is possible that some current goes through it. The value of this current depends on 'grounding conditions' and wether a 'balun' is used between TX and antenna. But in any case this downgoing current will only create a magnetic field (that suffers much less from losses in the earth, threes etc... compared to the electric field). Anyway, a very interesting antenna. 73, Rik Rik Strobbe ON7YD rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.ac.be Villadreef 14 B-3128 Baal BELGIUM (JO20IX)