Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1233; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, HTML_MESSAGE,SPF_PASS autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id u87H8Llm016607 for ; Wed, 7 Sep 2016 19:08:22 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1bhgGe-0001DF-A0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Sep 2016 18:04:08 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1bhgGd-0001D6-Qk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Sep 2016 18:04:07 +0100 Received: from smtpout4.wanadoo.co.uk ([80.12.242.68] helo=smtpout.wanadoo.co.uk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1bhgGb-0003B3-7Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Sep 2016 18:04:06 +0100 Received: from AGB ([95.150.80.165]) by mwinf5d53 with ME id gh421t0073a0Nmv03h42Ks; Wed, 07 Sep 2016 19:04:03 +0200 X-ME-Helo: AGB X-ME-Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2016 19:04:03 +0200 X-ME-IP: 95.150.80.165 Message-ID: <2D1D181F2D344586B69C2E13FC948F2D@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 18:04:02 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 X-Scan-Signature: 3fa31248af9b7a1d533bfdae0dc25a10 Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM LF tests Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003B_01D20932.36DA32D0" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.11 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 8701 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01D20932.36DA32D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Nice going Luis ! =20 G3XDV and Ik0VVE , similar distance at -32 DB , levels u expect on = 477 ! 73-G,=20 op32 decodes ! 2016-09-07 04:35:08 EA5DOM IM98XN G3XDV IO91VT 1.473 136 = -32 Op32_||||||||||||_~32dB =20 2016-09-07 04:35:08 EA5DOM IM98XN EB3FRN JN01MC 297 136 -33 = Op32_||||||||||_~33dB=20 2016-09-07 04:35:08 EA5DOM IM98XN SV8RV KM07KS 1.827 136 = -39 Op32__~40dB=20 2016-09-07 03:35:09 EA5DOM IM98XN G3XDV IO91VT 1.473 136 -37 = Op32_||_~37dB=20 2016-09-07 03:35:08 EA5DOM IM98XN IK0VVE JN61KM 1.146 136 -32 = Op32_||||||||||||_~32dB=20 2016-09-07 02:35:08 EA5DOM IM98XN IK0VVE JN61KM = 1.146 136 -38 Op32__~38dB=20 2016-09-07 01:35:08 EA5DOM IM98XN G3XDV IO91VT 1.473 = 136 -39 Op32__~39dB=20 From: VIGILANT Luis Fern=C3=A1ndez=20 Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 8:12 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM LF tests Hi LF Last night was 5w !!! :-0 Testing an audio amplifier with dissapointing performances Very interesting spots :-) 73 de Luis EA5DOM El 7 sept. 2016 2:18 a. m., Graham = escribi=C3=B3: 100 mW to Ae ? to too much power , still 3 db left ! 73-G, ) 23:39 136 EA5DOM de G3XDV Op32 Deep Search 915 mi -42 dB in Welwyn = 1520.0 Hz with 0.1w + MiniWhip 23:35 136 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op32 0 mi -1 dB F:2% in Albir - QRP Test = 1519,6 Hz with 0.1w + MiniWhip 23:35 136 EA5DOM de EB3FRN Op32 185 mi -35 dB F:7% in Montbrio 1519,9 = Hz with 0.1w + MiniWhip From: VIGILANT Luis Fern=C3=A1ndez=20 Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 11:00 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: RE: LF: EA5DOM LF tests Hi LF Yes Markus. Signal must be following some Ryanair path bouncing from = plane to plane :-) Since last night U3 transmits continously frame after frame. No stop = to GPS calibration So may be the increase in decodes this night is due to a better phase = coherence 73 de Luis EA5DOM -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org = [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de Markus Vester Enviado el: lunes, 05 de septiembre de 2016 11:12 Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM LF tests Ol=C3=A1 Luis, one more detection yesterday and three this morning - we seem to have = a private LF duct between us ;-) 73, Markus (DF6NM) -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----=20 Von: VIGILANT Luis Fern=C3=A1ndez An: rsgb_lf_group Verschickt: Do, 1 Sept 2016 2:21 pm Betreff: RE: LF: EA5DOM LF tests Thank you for the phase info Markus Can recall that the first tests last spring with same power and U3 = were phase coherent But my U3 suffered a hard reset and turned back to factory default = parameters, so probably the park function makes the difference. Will set it and test tonight The other difference with previous test is that I'm not transmitting = continously. Only one frame every hour starting at minute 45 Thank you Stefan. The variometer in L1 is at minimum. So it is easy to = add a bit more inductance Will be better to add a bit more power soon and see if we can go for = QSO ;-) 73 de Luis EA5DOM -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org = [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de Markus Vester Enviado el: jueves, 01 de septiembre de 2016 12:50 Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM LF tests Thanks a lot for the transmission, and the report on the report ;-) = Nice setup indeed on top of your roof! I believe that the U3 by default does not preserve phase between = dashes (possibly depending on a "park mode" setting but I'm not sure). = If you could make the transmission coherent the opds correlator might = gain another 3 to 4 dB sensitivity. All the best, Markus=20 -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----=20 Von: VIGILANT Luis Fern=C3=A1ndez An: rsgb_lf_group Verschickt: Do, 1 Sept 2016 11:10 am Betreff: LF: EA5DOM LF tests Hi LF Last night the LF coils were connected and started to transmit Op32 = with just the 100mW from U3 = https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7162072/fotos%20varias/MF/MF%20and%20= LF%20coils.jpg So far, an Op32 correlation decode from Markus. Nice Rx Markus ! :-) Who's next ?? ;-) 2016-09-01 04:18:19 EA5DOM 1500km 137519.968Hz 28mHz -42.5dBOp 93% = 15.5dBI have tested the effect of the Ultrabeam dynamic antenna I use as = a support pole whileworking as variable capacitor. I can get the = resonance 15KHz down by extending fully the internalmetallic element of = the vertical antenna. A great aid for remote tunning from shack73 de = Luis EA5DOM =20 ------=_NextPart_000_003B_01D20932.36DA32D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Nice going = Luis ! =20
 
G3XDV and=20 Ik0VVE   , similar distance  at  -32 DB = ,  levels=20 u expect on 477 !
 
73-G, =
 
op32  = decodes =20 !
2016-09-07 04:35:08
     EA5DOM  IM98XN G3XDV     IO91VT 1.473 136 -32
Op32_||||||||||||_~32dB
 
2016-09-07 04:35:08     EA5DOM  IM98XN   EB3FRN JN01MC 297 136 -33 Op32_||||||||||_~33dB
2016-09-07 04:35:08     EA5DOM    IM98XN SV8RV KM07KS 1.827 136 -39 Op32__~40dB
2016-09-07 03:35:09     EA5DOM IM98XN G3XDV IO91VT 1.473 136 -37 Op32_||_~37dB
2016-09-07 03:35:08      EA5DOM IM98XN IK0VVE JN61KM 1.146 136 -32 Op32_||||||||||||_~32dB
 
 
2016-09-07 02:35:08     EA5DOM     IM98XN   IK0VVE       JN61KM 1.146 136 -38 Op32__~38dB
 
2016-09-07 01:35:08       EA5DOM    IM98XN    G3XDV    IO91VT 1.473 136 -39 Op32__~39dB
 
 
 

From: VIGILANT Luis Fern=C3=A1ndez
Sent: Wednesday, September 07, 2016 8:12 AM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM LF tests

Hi LF

Last night was 5w !!! :-0
Testing an audio amplifier = with=20 dissapointing performances

Very interesting spots :-)

73 de Luis
EA5DOM


El 7 sept. 2016 2:18 a. m., Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>=20 escribi=C3=B3:
 
100 mW  to  Ae ?  to too  much power=20  ,  still  3 db left  !
 
73-G, )
 

23:39 136 EA5DOM de G3XDV Op32 Deep Search 915 mi -42 dB in Welwyn = 1520.0=20 Hz with 0.1w + MiniWhip

23:35 136 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op32 0 mi -1 dB F:2% in Albir - QRP Test = 1519,6=20 Hz with 0.1w + MiniWhip

23:35 136 EA5DOM de EB3FRN Op32 185 mi -35 dB F:7% in Montbrio = 1519,9 Hz=20 with 0.1w + MiniWhip

 

Sent: Monday, September 05, 2016 11:00 AM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Subject: RE: LF: EA5DOM LF tests

Hi=20 LF
 
Yes Markus.=20 Signal must be following some Ryanair path bouncing from plane to = plane=20 :-)
 
Since last night=20 U3 transmits continously frame after frame. No stop to GPS=20 calibration
So may be the=20 increase in decodes this night is due to a better phase = coherence
 
73 de Luis
EA5DOM

De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@bl= acksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de Markus = Vester
Enviado el: lunes, 05 de septiembre de 2016=20 11:12
Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Asunto: = Re: LF:=20 EA5DOM LF tests

Ol=C3=A1=20 Luis,

one more detection yesterday and three this morning - we = seem to=20 have a private LF duct between us ;-)

73, Markus=20 (DF6NM)


-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----
Von: = VIGILANT Luis=20 Fern=C3=A1ndez <luis@vigilant.es>
An: rsgb_lf_group=20 <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: Do, 1 Sept 2016 = 2:21=20 pm
Betreff: RE: LF: EA5DOM LF tests

Thank you=20 for the phase info Markus
 
Can recall=20 that the first tests last spring with same power and U3 were phase=20 coherent
 
But my U3=20 suffered a hard reset and turned back to factory default parameters, = so=20 probably the park function
makes the=20 difference. Will set it and test tonight
 
The other=20 difference with previous test is that I'm not transmitting = continously. Only=20 one frame every hour
starting=20 at minute 45
 
Thank you=20 Stefan. The variometer in L1 is at minimum. So it is easy to add a bit = more=20 inductance
Will be=20 better to add a bit more power soon and see if we can go for QSO=20 ;-)
 
73 de=20 Luis
EA5DOM

De: = owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_= group@blacksheep.org]=20 En nombre de Markus Vester
Enviado el: jueves, 01 de=20 septiembre de 2016 12:50
Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
Asunto:=20 Re: LF: EA5DOM LF tests

Thanks=20 a lot for the transmission, and the report on the report ;-) Nice = setup indeed=20 on top of your roof!

I believe that the U3 by = default does=20 not preserve phase between dashes (possibly depending on a "park = mode"=20 setting but I'm not sure). If  you could make the = transmission=20 coherent the opds correlator might gain another 3 to 4 dB=20 sensitivity.

All the = best,
Markus 

-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche=20 Mitteilung-----
Von: VIGILANT Luis Fern=C3=A1ndez <luis@vigilant.es>
An: = rsgb_lf_group=20 <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= >
Verschickt:=20 Do, 1 Sept 2016 11:10 am
Betreff: LF: EA5DOM LF tests

Hi = LF
 
Last night = the LF=20 coils were connected and started to transmit Op32 with just the 100mW = from=20 U3
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7162072/fotos= %20varias/MF/MF%20and%20LF%20coils.jpg
 
So far, an = Op32=20 correlation decode from Markus. Nice Rx Markus ! :-)
Who's next = ??=20 ;-)
2016-09-01 04:18:19 EA5DOM  1500km =
137519.968Hz  28mHz -42.5dBOp  93% 15.5dB
I have tested the effect of the Ultrabeam dynamic antenna I use =
as a support pole while
working as variable =
capacitor. I can get the resonance 15KHz down by extending fully the =
internal
metallic element of the vertical antenna. A =
great aid for remote tunning from shack

  
73 de=20
  Luis

  
EA5DOM
 



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