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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Ok Markus Seems better signals earlier in the night over this path ? The rf bands are listed in the windows software , under the Frequencies tab , the two bands are a result of separating the mode speeds with dedicated dsp , this reduces the cpu load and minimises the false decode's [ Tokyo seems to be the worst qth for this ?] early versions where dual mode / auto detect , but cpu loading was [ for some ] an issue [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.12.242.42 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 783e848a630124d13ae6ef06c152f951 Subject: Re: LF: From Bigggleswade to Kastoria 00:35 477 DF6NM de SV2DCD Op4 -27 dB in Kastoria Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_007F_01CDBF53.2D02A030" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_FONTCOLOR_RED,HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d6055509e6aac75ea X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_007F_01CDBF53.2D02A030 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok Markus=20 Seems better signals earlier in the night over this path ?=20 The rf bands are listed in the windows software , under the = Frequencies tab , the two bands are a result of separating the = mode speeds with dedicated dsp , this reduces the cpu load = and minimises the false decode's [ Tokyo seems to be the worst = qth for this ?] early versions where dual mode / auto detect , = but cpu loading was [ for some ] an issue=20 For LF OP32 + OP8 MF OP4 and OP8 are available by selection = [others can be used , but require tx/rx alignment ] to data OP8 = remains for the most, un-tested on 500 =20 Note OP8 pass band is 100Hz OP4 200Hz , operation mid band = for fixed qrg stations is optimal , spacing app 3 Hz is = required =20 Rf carrier for OP4 and OP8 on 477 are :- 478-5 > 478-6 and 478-6 > 478-8 =20 Rf carrier for OP4 and OP8 on 500 are :- 501-5 > 501-6 and 501-6 > 501-8 =20 73 -Graham.=20 From: Markus Vester=20 Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 2:28 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: From Bigggleswade to Kastoria 00:35 477 DF6NM de SV2DCD = Op4 -27 dB in Kastoria Thanks Graham, happy to see the decode. Yes pskreporter has still expatriated me from Nuernberg to middle = England (wondering if that would be for the better or worse ;-)) = According to a wspr spot the other day it's more like 1272 km 2012-11-08 23:56 DF6NM 0.475631 -5 0 JN59nj 1 SV2DCD = KN00pl 1272 137=20 I was on 478.670 kHz at the time but 'm still not quite clear about the = (RF) frequency bands which are being monitored for different Opera = speeds. On LF, I gather it's 137.5-137.6 for Op32 and 135.6-137.7 for = Op8, but where would the faster modes 4 and 2 go? And which are the = respective slots on MF 478.xx kHz? Best 73, and a nice weekend to all, Markus (DF6NM, JN59NJ) From: Graham=20 Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 1:58 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: From Bigggleswade to Kastoria 00:35 477 DF6NM de SV2DCD Op4 = -27 dB in Kastoria >From Bigggleswade to Kastoria 00:35 477 DF6NM de SV2DCD Op4 -27 dB in = Kastoria Well that's what the map shows hihi=20 Good start to the day=20 00:49 477 DF1VB de G0NBD Op4 466 mi -26 dB in Nr Liverpool with 65w + = Inverted L 00:35 477 DF6NM de DD7PC Op4 -21 dB in Ingelheim 00:35 477 DF6NM de SV2DCD Op4 -27 dB in Kastoria 00:49 477 DF1VB Op4 -26 dB 00:35 477 DF6NM Op4 -10 dB 73-G.. ------=_NextPart_000_007F_01CDBF53.2D02A030 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ok Markus
 
Seems  better  signals earlier  in the  = night =20 over this path  ?
 
The  rf  bands  are listed  in the  =20 windows   software , under the  Frequencies   = tab =20 , the  two  bands  are  a  result  of=20 separating  the  mode  speeds  with =20 dedicated   dsp  , this  reduces  the  = cpu =20 load  and  minimises  the  false decode's  =  [=20 Tokyo  seems  to  be  the  worst qth  = for  this  ?]  early  versions where  = dual =20 mode  / auto  detect , but  cpu loading  was  [ = for  some ] an  issue
 
For  LF  OP32  + OP8   = MF   =20 OP4  and  OP8  are available by  = selection =20 [others  can be used , but  require tx/rx  alignment=20 ]   to  data  OP8  remains  for the  = most,=20   un-tested  on 500    
 
Note OP8  pass  band  is  100Hz   = OP4 =20 200Hz  , operation  mid  band  for  fixed  = qrg  stations  is  optimal  , spacing  = app  =20 3 Hz  is  required 
 
Rf  carrier  for  OP4  and  = OP8   on=20 477  are  :-
 
478-5 > 478-6     and   478-6 > = 478-8 
 
Rf  carrier  for  OP4  and  = OP8  =20 on  500  are  :-
 
501-5 > 501-6   and  501-6 > 501-8  =
 
73 -Graham.

From: Markus Vester
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 2:28 PM
Subject: Re: LF: From Bigggleswade to Kastoria 00:35 477 = DF6NM de=20 SV2DCD Op4 -27 dB in Kastoria

Thanks Graham, happy to see the=20 decode.
 
Yes pskreporter has still = expatriated me=20 from Nuernberg to middle England (wondering if that would be for the = better or=20 worse ;-)) According to a wspr spot the other day it's more like = 1272=20 km
 2012-11-08 23:56  =20 DF6NM   0.475631   -5   0  =20 JN59nj   1   SV2DCD   KN00pl  =20 1272   137
 
I was on 478.670 kHz at the = time but 'm=20 still not quite clear about the (RF) frequency bands which are = being=20 monitored for different Opera speeds. On LF, I gather it's 137.5-137.6 = for Op32=20 and 135.6-137.7 for Op8, but where would the faster modes 4 and=20 2 go? And which are the respective slots on MF 478.xx=20 kHz?
 
Best 73, and a nice weekend to = all,
 
Markus (DF6NM, JN59NJ)
 

From: Graham
Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2012 1:58 AM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Subject: LF: From Bigggleswade to Kastoria 00:35 477 DF6NM = de SV2DCD=20 Op4 -27 dB in Kastoria

From Bigggleswade to  Kastoria   00:35 477 DF6NM de = SV2DCD=20 Op4 -27 dB in Kastoria
 
Well  that's  what the  map  shows  hihi =
 
Good start to the  day

00:49 477 DF1VB de G0NBD Op4 466 mi -26 dB in Nr Liverpool with 65w + = Inverted L

00:35 477 DF6NM de DD7PC Op4 -21 dB in Ingelheim

00:35 477 DF6NM de SV2DCD Op4 -27 dB in Kastoria

00:49 477=20 DF1VB Op4 -26 dB
00:35 477 DF6NM Op4 -10=20 dB
 
73-G..
 
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