Return-Path: Received: from mtain-de02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-de02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.202]) by air-ma04.mail.aol.com (v128.1) with ESMTP id MAILINMA041-b5144bbd06b38b; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 18:26:59 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-de02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 7F7C4380000FB; Wed, 7 Apr 2010 18:26:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Nzdh4-0008B9-RM for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 23:25:54 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Nzdh4-0008B0-FN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 23:25:54 +0100 Received: from smtp821.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.250]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Nzdh2-00074v-No for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Apr 2010 23:25:54 +0100 Received: (qmail 52347 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2010 22:25:46 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=WXuE/ZMXBeOSeqnUJJ20xDFh9novz/IB+EGhh1vyuHFHEuA56PN3xBgb+nvEE9xg5YhGAFSk/mDU4/HE9yWOZC/CfrpFz7Gb1g7yiNJKbCSqFscpLxhEspZ6WEKS/Fzv+KgYltH9jLG4EmREuJNmYYrWte7Z9dBgvgF6dsqQsHw= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btopenworld.com; s=s1024; t=1270679146; bh=twsqg5jQZPTi/PvK5AvJ7r86wxWY65dh0nMFdWqTe5A=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=6SKnilUrA7kx0QOtLZJFH+MInLTVkowRfKLG15aJCCQtOgupkjUhK33+f3ziXEFAoP1VQyxxWUd6aSr3ZPMh/r/xJgEDUa/QzQ/kfFiHrrs2Sbug6EeGzZLpXeOw7NOh+csWzd1pUEahX7YsWZtg9anV6SCy1GXHazEKyTS0MjA= Received: from JimPC (james.moritz@86.180.204.156 with login) by smtp821.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 07 Apr 2010 22:25:46 +0000 GMT X-Yahoo-SMTP: Cxhli3eswBD1ozmtAojhjrja86kWx0Qm9tycD5QR1DKWrOLgjJcXkw-- X-YMail-OSG: NFtpmOwVM1liD7xjPpAcE4AeFAI1z6Lt4cj4CfNOkU_O8Sr0JI1Cc6EAIa0sCy6LKv_3U84KUFyjs3l.pJaFYiild1EuKq2UEFj6Mqi6.utEd8ZxmsoKqhltiHKyEQ8Eo97fue.Fd0peqrPGNWIQ7OzDv792k6ucpV5BohTXH.o3FN1p.IU46Z.49rb6c.b1yLaS_PwCcvB2jBj.5lxCNfkJMp_A4YQgtE5yChtq9VcvaXEpNiX3g_dlcMimjK02.rstXfktXIZlJg3QYf3ef3lWT7wqkn.LLbVL X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <2C18FDA91B0849C5958253F77FE7EF50@JimPC> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <771416.76510.qm@web28105.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <387288.17030.qm@web28509.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <387288.17030.qm@web28509.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 7 Apr 2010 23:25:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: WSPR without an SSB TRX ? Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d235.2 ; domain : btopenworld.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40ca4bbd06b179d2 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Chris, LF Group, ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Osborn" ...>My initial thoughts were that the PC is giving out a 1500 Hz tone + / - 5 Hz. This is used to generate USB signals from an SSB TX (?) I was hoping to mix these tones with a stable frequency of 1400 Hz (say) ending up with 100 Hz + / - 5 Hz - thence to an F-V converter - gain / level adjusted and thence to the TX VCO input....> That is probably feasible, if quite tricky - but much easier just to mix the 1500Hz tone up directly to 500kHz to generate the VFO drive for your existing TX PA; that way only a simple fixed oscillator is required (one using a ceramic resonator would be adequately stable and "pullable" over a sufficient range). You then avoid all the business of having to calibrate the f/V gain, VCO frequency shift and so on. Plus, you can tune the frequency by changing the centre frequency setting in the software, and use it to transmit all sorts of other soundcard mFSK modes, RTTY etc., too. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU