Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1233; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id tB4KWjj0012708 for ; Fri, 4 Dec 2015 21:32:45 +0100 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1a4wyi-0002Wv-S7 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 04 Dec 2015 20:29:16 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1a4wyi-0002Wm-7b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 04 Dec 2015 20:29:16 +0000 Received: from smtpout3.wanadoo.co.uk ([80.12.242.59] helo=smtpout.wanadoo.co.uk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1a4wxd-0001gD-Uk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 04 Dec 2015 20:29:15 +0000 Received: from AGB ([95.148.100.81]) by mwinf5d35 with ME id pYTp1r0011lMyMK03YTpZN; Fri, 04 Dec 2015 21:27:49 +0100 X-ME-Helo: AGB X-ME-Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2015 21:27:49 +0100 X-ME-IP: 95.148.100.81 Message-ID: <2B552D4DD80946C3B2B68535E32EA1D9@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <579355A36AEE9D4FA555C45D556003AB1B2C3DAD@servigilant.vigilant.local> In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2015 20:27:48 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 X-Scan-Signature: 917bb99d4b5d86797eb255ea29aa077f Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5552 Better ) 20:11 477 EA5DOM de G8HUH Op8 Deep Search 889 mi -35 dB in Somerset 1520.5 Hz with 5mw + Vert 11+80m -------------------------------------------------- From: "Graham" Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 7:43 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment > Good start Luis .. There is a path to night ! > > 73-G, > > 19:35 477 G8HUH de EA5DOM Op8 889 mi -23 dB F:20% in Albir 1459,0 Hz > > 19:35 477 EA5DOM de EB3FRN Op8 Deep Search 185 mi -36 dB in MONTBRIO > 1523.2 Hz with 5mw + Vert 11+80m > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "VIGILANT Luis Fernández" > Sent: Friday, December 04, 2015 10:20 AM > To: > Subject: RE: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment > >> >> Done >> >> Added another 3dB atenuator to the already in use 10dB >> From the 20dBm output of U3 to 520mV over 50Ohm -> 5mW to the antenna >> (NOT ERP) >> >> Power message changed in WSPR and Opera >> >> Reports down 1 to 2dB in my monitor. We are really on the "dummy limit" >> right now >> >> PS: The level of power were a MF antenna radiates as good as a dummy load >> ;-) >> >> 73 de Luis >> EA5DOM >> >> -----Mensaje original----- >> De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de VIGILANT Luis >> Fernández >> Enviado el: viernes, 04 de diciembre de 2015 9:00 >> Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >> >> Hi Graham, MF >> >> That was just when I went to bed ! >> >> -36dB Dynamic decode in Opera. But there was also a G8HUH decode in WSPR >> with an amazing -17dB !! >> >> 2015-12-04 02:12 EA5DOM 0.475609 -17 0 IM98wn 0.01 G8HUH IO81mg 1430 352 >> >> Single spot from Maxi, EA5CV at 60Km >> >> 2015-12-04 06:24 EA5DOM 0.475612 -31 0 IM98wn 0.01 EA5CV IM98ol 59 261 >> >> I'm going to add 3dB attenuation. Let's see if it is possible with 5mW on >> antenna (not 5mW ERP) ;-) >> >> 73 de Luis >> EA5DOM >> >> ________________________________________ >> De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de Graham >> [g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk] >> Enviado: viernes, 4 de diciembre de 2015 1:17 >> Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >> >> Luis .. >> >> 22:47 477 EA5DOM de G8HUH Op8 Deep Search 889 mi -36 dB in Somerset >> 1520.8 Hz with 0.01w + Vert 11+80m >> >> G, >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "VIGILANT Luis Fernández" >> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2015 8:40 AM >> To: >> Subject: RE: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >> >>> >>> Hi Graham, MF >>> >>> Much worse conditions last night. I even checked the RMS voltage over >>> 50R load to see if the attenuator was not working correctly, but there >>> were the 11mW >>> >>> Only two WSPR spots from Andy at limit >>> >>> 2015-12-02 23:24 EA5DOM 0.475610 -32 0 IM98wn 0.01 F1AFJ JN06ht 919 4 >>> 2015-12-02 21:24 EA5DOM 0.475610 -30 0 IM98wn 0.01 F1AFJ JN06ht 919 4 >>> >>> I saw the report from G3XKR on PskReporter but nothing via Opera >>> server Probably due to the old software version used by G3XKR ?? >>> >>> Anyway VERY good Rx there ! :-) >>> >>> Will keep at 11mW for the moment >>> >>> 73 de Luis >>> EA5DOM >>> >>> -----Mensaje original----- >>> De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de Graham >>> Enviado el: jueves, 03 de diciembre de 2015 1:12 >>> Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>> >>> >>> Rx at Wed, 02 Dec 2015 21:46:11 GMT >>> From EA5DOM by G3XKR Loc IO70UX >>> Frequency: 0.477 MHz (600m), OPERA, -31dB >>> Distance: 1418 km bearing 348° >>> Using: Opera v1.5.4/Rptr V1.6 >>> Antenna: RX Op8 >>> >>> V 1-5-4 pre dynamic ? >>> >>> 73-G, >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Tony Baldwin" >>> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 7:25 PM >>> To: >>> Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>> >>>> I'm on 477 opera as well as 474.2 WSPR I shall leave it monitoring >>>> both all night 73, Tony, EI8JK >>>> >>>> On 02-Dec-15 19:08, Graham wrote: >>>>> Still big signals Luis ! >>>>> >>>>> We know from the Vampire tests , what should happen, but , there is >>>>> no >>>>> accurate way of telling who is actually running Rx on 477 now, >>>>> since the psk-map changed the housekeeping routines ... >>>>> >>>>> Im Rx 477 at the moment , only see your local decode's at the >>>>> moment >>>>> >>>>> 73-G, >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>> From: "VIGILANT Luis Fernández" >>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2015 7:51 AM >>>>> To: >>>>> Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>>> >>>>>> No more DX last night at 11mW >>>>>> >>>>>> One spot from F5WK and many more from Andy F1AFJ >>>>>> >>>>>> Maxi, EA5CV got a few at -28dB and being just 60Km away but with a >>>>>> sub optimal Rx No other EA station got copy >>>>>> >>>>>> No Opera spots. Monitors were too far, probably >>>>>> >>>>>> There were few TA spots across north atlantic. So, conditions were >>>>>> not bad Will keep Txing at this power level untill finishing the PA >>>>>> install at terrace >>>>>> >>>>>> 73 de Luis >>>>>> EA5DOM >>>>>> ________________________________________ >>>>>> De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>> [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de VIGILANT Luis >>>>>> Fernández [luis@vigilant.es] >>>>>> Enviado: martes, 1 de diciembre de 2015 23:11 >>>>>> Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>> Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>>>> >>>>>> Wellcome to the 11mW challenge, Clemens :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> F5WK joined the party with just one spot but breaking the distance >>>>>> mark to 1192km >>>>>> >>>>>> 2015-12-01 20:24 EA5DOM 0.475608 -28 0 IM98wn >>>>>> 0.01 F5WK IN99ef 1192 355 >>>>>> >>>>>> Andy has 8 spots so far. And one as good as -20dB !! >>>>>> >>>>>> 2015-12-01 21:36 EA5DOM 0.475610 -20 0 IM98wn >>>>>> 0.01 F1AFJ JN06ht 919 4 >>>>>> >>>>>> You are at 1515Km. A real edge for such a weak signal ?? >>>>>> >>>>>> 73 de Luis >>>>>> EA5DOM >>>>>> ________________________________________ >>>>>> De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>> [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de Clemens Paul >>>>>> [cpaul@gmx.net] >>>>>> Enviado: martes, 1 de diciembre de 2015 22:54 >>>>>> Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>> Asunto: RE: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello Luis, >>>>>> >>>>>>> I wonder if there is al least 1mW ERP out ! Still a lot of room >>>>>>> for Opera Deep Search spots >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any other taker ? >>>>>> >>>>>> I'll give it a try tonight. >>>>>> RX and WSPR are running now. >>>>>> I know I can compete with DH5RAE and DJ0ABR regarding WSPR spots >>>>>> (RX-wise). >>>>>> I'm also quite out in the sticks... >>>>>> >>>>>> 73 >>>>>> Clemens >>>>>> DL4RAJ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of VIGILANT >>>>>>> Luis Fernández >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 9:17 PM >>>>>>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>>> Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Wow. We have a winner >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Congratulations Andy ! Fantastic spots -25dB using only 11mW here >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2015-12-01 19:36 EA5DOM 0.475610 -25 >>>>>>> 0 IM98wn 0.01 F1AFJ JN06ht >>>>>>> 919 4 >>>>>>> 2015-12-01 19:24 EA5DOM 0.475610 -25 >>>>>>> 0 IM98wn 0.01 F1AFJ JN06ht >>>>>>> 919 4 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I wonder if there is al least 1mW ERP out ! Still a lot of room >>>>>>> for Opera Deep Search spots >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Any other taker ? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 73 de Luis >>>>>>> EA5DOM >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>>> [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de VIGILANT Luis >>>>>>> Fernández [luis@vigilant.es] >>>>>>> Enviado: martes, 1 de diciembre de 2015 16:23 >>>>>>> Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>>> Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> OK Graham, there we are ! ;-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 0,742V RMS over 50Ohm. That's 11mW >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can see 1dB down in my WSPR monitor at 7Km. Reports from EA5CV >>>>>>> which were about -25dB are nill now >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Really challenging for me and for RX stations. Probably will get >>>>>>> some spots from EA5CV and EA2HB during the night, but for >1000Km >>>>>>> paths it will be very hard, depending on propagation conditions >>>>>>> and noise floor >>>>>>> >>>>>>> WSPR power message set to 10dBm and Opera info changed to 0,01w >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Make your bet ! ;-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 73 de Luis >>>>>>> EA5DOM >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>>> [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de Graham >>>>>>> [g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk] >>>>>>> Enviado: martes, 1 de diciembre de 2015 14:26 >>>>>>> Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>>> Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Getting there Luis ! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Your 6 dB in hand with G3XKR , may be more with G8HUH , >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Go for the big 1-0 TEN mW , the stats are not good , >>>>>>> you need to get a peak aligned with the qsb , but with 8% >>>>>>> fade , but, signal must be holding up ... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 73-G, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: VIGILANT Luis Fernández >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2015 8:23 AM >>>>>>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Subject: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi MF >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yet some remarkable results with 51mW. May be propagation >>>>>>> conditions lowered extra dBs >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Anyway, in Opera got a -30dB decode from G3XKR and Deep Search >>>>>>> -37dB from SV8CS-5 at 1819Km >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 00:34 477 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op8 0 km +0 dB F:1%_End in Albir >>>>>>> 1519,0 Hz with 0.05w + Vert 11+80m >>>>>>> 00:34 477 EA5DOM de G3XKR Op8 -30 dB F:8% in BIDEFORD Devon >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 01:47 477 EA5DOM de SV8CS-5 Op8 Deep Search 1819 km -37 dB >>>>>>> in Zakynthos 1519.5 Hz with 0.05w + Vert 11+80m >>>>>>> 01:46 477 EA5DOM de EA5DOM Op8 0 km +1 dB F:2% in Albir >>>>>>> 1519,0 Hz with 0.05w + Vert 11+80m >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In WSPR best distance and SNR spots from: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2015-12-01 03:00 EA5DOM 0.475607 -27 >>>>>>> 0 IM98wn 0.02 DH5RAE JN68qv >>>>>>> 1576 39 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2015-11-30 22:00 EA5DOM 0.475607 -29 >>>>>>> 0 IM98wn 0.02 DJ0ABR JN68nt >>>>>>> 1556 39 >>>>>>> 2015-12-01 03:00 EA5DOM 0.475608 -30 >>>>>>> 0 IM98wn 0.02 G3XKR IO70ux >>>>>>> 1419 348 >>>>>>> 2015-11-30 23:12 EA5DOM 0.475608 -22 >>>>>>> 0 IM98wn 0.02 F5WK IN99ef 1192 >>>>>>> 355 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Should I get down another 3dB to 25mW and still spotted by F5WK ?? >>>>>>> :-O >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Congratulations to all this stations for their superb RX ! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 73 de Luis >>>>>>> EA5DOM >>>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>>> [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de VIGILANT Luis >>>>>>> Fernández [luis@vigilant.es] >>>>>>> Enviado: lunes, 30 de noviembre de 2015 21:03 >>>>>>> Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>>> Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Let's go step by step >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 3db down now: 1,60V RMS 51mW >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Same signals on my monitor and some drop on F5WK and EA5CV reports >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 73 de Luis >>>>>>> EA5DOM >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>>> [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] en nombre de Graham >>>>>>> [g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk] >>>>>>> Enviado: lunes, 30 de noviembre de 2015 19:14 >>>>>>> Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>>> Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> .. May be 10 dB at least ! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> G, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: VIGILANT Luis Fernández >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 5:53 PM >>>>>>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Subject: RE: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Graham, MF >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes. The efficiency of this antenna setup is really outstanding >>>>>>> :-O I can clearly see the signal on my monitor waterfall at 7Km >>>>>>> when injecting -33dBm >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Just at sunset between EA and DL I got two WSPR decodes from >>>>>>> DH5RAE and DJ0ABR >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2015-11-30 16:00 EA5DOM 0.475608 -29 >>>>>>> 0 IM98wn 0.05 DJ0ABR JN68nt >>>>>>> 1556 39 >>>>>>> 2015-11-30 16:00 EA5DOM 0.475614 -22 >>>>>>> 0 IM98wn 0.05 EA5CV IM98ol >>>>>>> 59 261 >>>>>>> 2015-11-30 16:00 EA5DOM 0.475607 -31 >>>>>>> 0 IM98wn 0.05 DH5RAE JN68qv >>>>>>> 1576 39 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have the 3dB atenuator ready to be installed. Will do it when I >>>>>>> get home in a couple of hours and will change the WSPR tx power >>>>>>> indicator and Opera info to notice the change >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 73 de Luis >>>>>>> EA5DOM >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de Graham >>>>>>> Enviado el: lunes, 30 de noviembre de 2015 18:13 >>>>>>> Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>>> Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Luis >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That's just 'a silly , -18 dB with G8HUH , I thought >>>>>>> you where running QRP, that's close to 20 dB QRO jiji >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 73-G, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From EA5DOM by G8HUH Loc IO81MG >>>>>>> Frequency: 0.477 MHz (600m), OPERA, -18dB >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All OP8 decodes from psk-map >>>>>>> >>>>>>> EA5DOM SO5AS >>>>>>> 600m OPERA >>>>>>> 2210 km 18:10:11 >>>>>>> EA5DOM >>>>>>> SV8CS-5 600m >>>>>>> OPERA 1820 km 18:46:12 >>>>>>> SV8CS EA5DOM >>>>>>> 600m OPERA >>>>>>> 1819 km 19:20:11 >>>>>>> EA5DOM EI8JK >>>>>>> 600m OPERA >>>>>>> 1633 km 18:46:12 >>>>>>> EA5DOM G8HUH >>>>>>> 600m OPERA >>>>>>> 1430 km 18:22:12 >>>>>>> EA5DOM G3XKR >>>>>>> 600m OPERA >>>>>>> 1420 km 23:10:11 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: VIGILANT Luis Fernández >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 11:48 AM >>>>>>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Subject: RE: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you Tony >>>>>>> >>>>>>> That explains the radical propagation change ! :-) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you for keeping your monitor working >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 73 de Luis >>>>>>> EA5DOM >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ________________________________ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> De: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] En nombre de Tony >>>>>>> Baldwin Enviado el: lunes, 30 de noviembre de 2015 9:34 >>>>>>> Para: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>>>>> Asunto: Re: LF: EA5DOM back to MF, but QRP at the moment >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Luis, I switched my radio off last night at about 23:30 utc. >>>>>>> I will leave it running opera all night tonight if you want to try >>>>>>> different power levels again. >>>>>>> 73, Tony, EI8JK >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >