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(VPS 100909-0, 09/09/2010), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: : Request for modification of Argo Time base Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00D2_01CB505A.D5B133F0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: S X-AOL-REROUTE: YES x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d408e4c89560e462b X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none ------=_NextPart_000_00D2_01CB505A.D5B133F0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Assuming this is right .. qrss 600 will have a dit length of 60= 0 seconds =3D 10 minuets and at 3:1 dit/dash dash =3D 30 minuets = , it would take over 1 hour to invite the other side to TX ...t= he sun would be shining by then and game over ! Not often but this time may be its One , Nill to the elder states= man=20 G .. QRSS keying, you can convert QRSS times to WPM by using the formula WP= M =3D1.2 / (Dit Length in Seconds). So for QRSS-30 (30 second dit), yo= u have 0.04 WPM speed From: Tony=20 Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 7:49 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: : Request for modification of Argo Time base So it's a case of managing to cross the pond .... and then give up ? Tony, EI8JK. On 09/09/2010 19:31, mal hamilton wrote:=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 7:18 PM Subject: Re: LF: Request for modification of Argo Time base Stefan If you need qrs 600 to communicate GIVE UP, its a ridiculous reques= t, no one has that amount of time to wait for a single digit. Think ho= w long it would take for a proper QSO. You are a late comer to LF and must understand the oceans have alrea= dy been spanned at speeds around QRS 60 and faster. A proper engineer= ed station can communicate with the USA and Russia on normal CW. I hav= e already achieved this on CW and QRS 3. g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Stefan Sch=C3=A4fer=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 5:37 PM Subject: Re: LF: Request for modification of Argo Time base Hello Alberto, I have a question too: Is it possible to add a "QRSS-600" and/or= a "QRSS-300" mode? Many OMs are using your program which does a good= job (just as Rik's QRS program for transmitting). Those who want to= RX a VLF transmission in DFCW-600 cannot do that in ARGO currently.= =20 If it would be easy and no problem for you to give out a new relea= se, it could be interesting for some :-) Best 73!=20 Stefan/DK7FC =20 ------=_NextPart_000_00D2_01CB505A.D5B133F0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Assuming this is right .. qrss = 600 =20 will  have a  dit  length  of  600 seconds = =3D 10 minuets=20 and at  3:1 dit/dash   dash =3D 30 minuets  , it&n= bsp; would=20 take  over 1 hour to  invite the  other  side to&n= bsp; TX=20 ...the  sun would be  shining  by then and game over=20 !
 
Not often but this time  may be= =20 its  One , Nill  to  the  elder statesman
 
G ..
 
QRSS keying, you can convert QRSS times to WPM by using the formu= la WPM=20 =3D1.2 / (Dit Length in Seconds). So for QRSS-30 (30 second dit), you= have 0.04=20 WPM speed

From: Tony
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: LF: : Request for modification of Argo Time= =20 base

So it's a case of managing to cross the pond .... and= then give=20 up ?

Tony, EI8JK.

On 09/09/2010 19:31, mal hamilton wrot= e:=20
 
----- Original Message -----=20
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Request for modification of Argo Time= =20 base

Stefan
If you need qrs 600 to communicate&= nbsp;GIVE UP,=20  its a ridiculous request, no one has that amount of time to wa= it for a=20 single digit. Think how long it would take for a proper QSO.<= /DIV>
You are a late comer to LF and must= understand=20 the oceans have already been spanned at speeds around  QRS= 60 and=20 faster. A proper engineered station can communicate with the USA and= =20 Russia on normal CW. I have already achieved this on CW an= d QRS=20 3.
g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Thursday, September= 09, 2010 5:37=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Request fo= r=20 modification of Argo Time base

Hello Alberto,

I have a question too: Is it= possible=20 to add a "QRSS-600" and/or a "QRSS-300" mode? Many OMs are using= your=20 program which does a good job (just as Rik's QRS program for trans= mitting).=20 Those who want to RX a VLF transmission in DFCW-600 cannot do that= in ARGO=20 currently.

If it would be easy and no problem for you to= give out a=20 new release, it could be interesting for some :-)

Best 73!= =20

Stefan/DK7FC






 
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