Return-Path: X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.0 (2014-02-07) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.3 required=5.0 tests=FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN, FREEMAIL_FROM,HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.0 X-Spam-DCC: EATSERVER: mailn 1166; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by lipkowski.org (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-8+deb8u1) with ESMTP id v5PCP5gt001299 for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2017 14:25:06 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1dP6Wd-0002Bt-9s for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Jun 2017 13:20:23 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1dP6WG-0002Bf-Uc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Jun 2017 13:20:00 +0100 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1dP6WC-0005bj-RL for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Jun 2017 13:19:59 +0100 Received: from Clemens0811 ([79.208.135.79]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MVdfD-1dGcqK1UfX-00YvEA for ; Sun, 25 Jun 2017 14:19:55 +0200 From: "Clemens Paul" To: References: <94719482.20170623130346@gmail.com> <408186507.20170624173207@gmail.com> <1B7B7537AD024FBDAA5E898E3DF21AAB@Clemens0811> <1483178977.20170624190258@gmail.com> <741897120.20170624204412@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <741897120.20170624204412@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2017 14:19:54 +0200 Message-ID: <2A1ED0432B3E4914AF1896E8F1B83924@Clemens0811> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AdLtInQe7qylbQ4YQkacS1MkBib2eQAiJI7Q X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.1.7601.17609 X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:17CqBhRf8qogJ4GYI+QgnfUxqTEO+/9+wzKzrHcVRpDp1ShQj79 QJPE86rd8aulK1FHLJX+VHERfmP0LcmKKqpt4i05xfjtv74/iVptCAivTsLOvAelrS9XktF 1LaNaBIt+yEHaUD3Nv4+CzEEPL8C4s7XZ5sLNeTIv8xoZoecvIW2PnivgqfOxu0NNTEo77P xV+QNZPoYrabdmkYq3Ypw== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:So2WB6RSHdY=:9PKVZHTIwrCewTqCGorRQu eUvHsCZZIoQ+f3IawvvZbk3vaLe9+V9eDqmMFo0JBw2F2fNtI7IlYp+I3e8atkb/E4Kmi17z+ um8Pkmzzj83GpVywj0An0roHyWL36Y2RrKQcvPlHt+kqBave5F4bdc7sTsvOgP8opEDzaHG+c nPPvXziw+4jZ6q5F5LyBkt4q7PhIN5Vj0sTLBNy3Ib/DQvDV6XwJenzEmWsmiiKEOGWfEiO+T Yhp1Mvxb8RcleKSGTPcdKzbRZqpOwyDd3FCU4j1rBEFMEYgp/etgBCoDA+JMwWlUkW7h99C8n PTLQpj3Qn8d59s6Qs+NML65srASSNgO5DzuuGJsye/aMCKHlppf51ueOT543wacdupfeGVWDy rOOcCQm5Oe32pUfIqnSECIn2vE2nZfes0NlM3yd+CHzudGPokaTXGy8s0TaapmLIr5Fvt75xV gnRqi4IO3Ps8v/lvLt59MUFZH3DRV9V/vUeIhTthdcOsjVOPVb6kipJxLhH639dvXo3qLGMLx z73T2hZU+k9KiOFdi1tKfJCDjQ6fKpg3ZLiMAfAWX+DFJQptr4W4VbWvvGtqy4KLRLMrK6wpc KGsNONwXlmRljv4iu0TDFqKxOZOLMOf2aMzH8AfE2oQ0Q6odBvBGvAUomkXf1A+gqRpzMkjRp 1+nJbtzWZDmsMhDMDzk67aEvc/5s8P8FSh74UnIYBa6UGsIAEoQtS89CMrKdhpswrk6Z+jWN7 Za9NK8JTwi5ruUKMYeUZRFFsm2epUlt94U8jb3Ky7B8gTZ2N8EmowdiRP10P6NTcuknbOJNkf hS900nH X-Scan-Signature: 7f2e5481aa97b3cbff3d653a1b2ddfbd Subject: RE: LF: RE: Transformer questions. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.75 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by lipkowski.org id v5PCP5gt001299 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 12101 Hi Chris, ok, I hope I have now understood your set up and what you may possibly want to change. Present configuration: >2 X amps to combiner via 2 off 12 inches Teflon coax cables : Combiner >to LPF via 12 inches Teflon co-ax : Combiner to outside about 40 feet >RG-213 co-ax : Outside is impedance matching transformer on top of >loading coil / variometer : Impedance matching transformer to loading >coil via 12 inches RG-213 : Loading coil feeds vertical section of >antenna directly. And from an earlier post by you: >>Can I wind the isolating >>transformer as a 1 : 1 and do impedance matching (which changes with >>weather / foliage growth) indoors using a tapped combiner auto >>transformer? So you want to modify the combiner-autotransformer into a tapped one and OTOH modify the tapped isolation transformer into a non-tapped 1:1 one.(?) This would be not a good idea. The combiner XFM would not work any more,the LPF would not work any more properly. Both need to see 50 Ohm. Even if you cancel out the antenna/feeder reactance by the loading coil/variometer you are left with a very low real part of impedance of a few Ohm. So beside the malfunction of the combiner and the LPF you would get a loss of about 2dB on the 40 feet coax (assuming 2 Ohm for the real part). 73 Clemens DL4RAJ >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Chris Wilson >Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2017 9:44 PM >To: Clemens Paul >Subject: Re: LF: RE: Transformer questions. > >Hello Clemens, > >It is between the outdoor end of the RG-1213 co-ax and the loading >coil, although it's not 1 : 1 at the moment, it has taps on the >primary and the secondary to fiddle with. > > > >Saturday, June 24, 2017, 7:45:48 PM, you wrote: > >> And where is the 1:1 isolation transformer inserted? > >> 73 >> Clemens >> DL4RAJ > > > > > > >-- >Best regards, > Chris mailto:dead.fets@gmail.com > > > >--- >Diese E-Mail wurde von AVG auf Viren geprüft. >http://www.avg.com >