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Hi Gary & Graham - 
   
  Congratualtions on the 500 kHz RTTY QSO. 
   
  I once tried to stir up interest in RTTY on 136 KHz but got no takers.
   
  I've used PSK on 136 but that needs linear amps and not many LF ops have such kit.
  However, almost any transmitter can be used for FSK RTTY. I'd be most interested to hear how you produce the FSK signal.
   
  Regards - Brian 

Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
  Hi LF,

Just completed my first 2 way qso on 500 khz with Graham G0NBD & a possible 
claim for a first 2 way qso using narrow shift RTTY on 500 khz.

The details are :-

19th July 1807utc to 1832utc
RTTY - 30 Hz shift - 45.5 Bd.
G4WGT - Coppull, Lancashire, UK - 50 mW ERP
G0NBD - Wallasey, Cheshire, UK - 80 mW ERP
Freq - 503.600 khz
My report to Graham - RST 459
Grahams report to me RST 599

Unforntunately the copy was a bit broken due to Grahams RTTY program 
crashing on his Windows ME PC but we got complete exchanges & a short chat. 
I also had trouble with Tx & Rx in such that I had to use MMTTY for FSK Tx 
but I could not get it to Rx so I used MixW218 for Rx & had to keep swapping 
from one program to the other.

I have copied some of the text from my screen (the first part had scrolled 
off) but it is a bit garbled in many places due to Grahams drop out & me 
having to re-sync the Rx program but as you can see we got there in the end.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


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2 WAY RTTY QSO ON 500 KHZ ....WELL DONE TO BOTH OF US 1111 WSR
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<div>Hi Gary &amp; Graham - </div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>Congratualtions on the 500 kHz RTTY QSO. </div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>I once tried to stir up interest in RTTY on 136 KHz but got no takers.</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>I've used PSK on 136 but that needs linear amps and not many LF ops have such kit.</div>  <div>However, almost any transmitter can be used for FSK RTTY. I'd&nbsp;be most interested to hear how you&nbsp;produce the FSK signal.</div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>  <div>Regards - Brian&nbsp;<BR><BR><B><I>Gary - G4WGT &lt;g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk&gt;</I></B> wrote:</div>  <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">Hi LF,<BR><BR>Just completed my first 2 way qso on 500 khz with Graham G0NBD &amp; a possible <BR>claim for a first 2 way qso using narrow shift RTTY on 500 khz.<BR><BR>The details are :-<BR><BR>19th July 1807utc to 1832utc<BR>RTTY - 30 Hz shift - 45.5 Bd.<BR>G4WGT - Coppull, Lancashire, UK - 50
 mW ERP<BR>G0NBD - Wallasey, Cheshire, UK - 80 mW ERP<BR>Freq - 503.600 khz<BR>My report to Graham - RST 459<BR>Grahams report to me RST 599<BR><BR>Unforntunately the copy was a bit broken due to Grahams RTTY program <BR>crashing on his Windows ME PC but we got complete exchanges &amp; a short chat. <BR>I also had trouble with Tx &amp; Rx in such that I had to use MMTTY for FSK Tx <BR>but I could not get it to Rx so I used MixW218 for Rx &amp; had to keep swapping <BR>from one program to the other.<BR><BR>I have copied some of the text from my screen (the first part had scrolled <BR>off) but it is a bit garbled in many places due to Grahams drop out &amp; me <BR>having to re-sync the Rx program but as you can see we got there in the end.<BR><BR>73<BR><BR>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp<BR><BR><BR>LL VVSVEEVVVOS VVTVV TE VVTCVVPVLOOOOOOVVVL<BR>VIVVVVR VVVVR VV <BR>VVVLOOOOOOOVVPVVVVVLVVVVVVLRVVVVVVVVVVPVVVLYVVVVVVVVVOVVVBVVVVVVOBVVVVV <BR>VVVRSVV VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVXVVVLRVVVVLVVVLTVL
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