X-GM-THRID: 1242428243553089592 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.78.172.11 with SMTP id u11cs451243hue; Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:50:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.86.26.11 with SMTP id 11mr2229264fgz.1184881852147; Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:50:52 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id h7si11965133nfh.2007.07.19.14.50.48; Thu, 19 Jul 2007 14:50:52 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: good (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IBdqr-0005nU-BC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jul 2007 22:48:01 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IBdqq-0005nL-BI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jul 2007 22:48:00 +0100 Received: from web25405.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.10.139]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IBdqp-0006Y7-Vf for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Jul 2007 22:48:00 +0100 Received: (qmail 3179 invoked by uid 60001); 19 Jul 2007 21:47:54 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=t/ODHJ0M6KQfmmA9Pij97EAgL4hBTF4JE0PubSXuP2GYfK8w9gQ8euvegJzA2/hCgPleluCaMGlYpuQgpSCKwoe69aT1dSGe4JQEuDfSGMppiK4j5dzJqMpx+O0yoJgykOHfgaArOcOgQ8t4AMLgcPH7D6Megxh7ft+Wss6d4M4=; X-YMail-OSG: oI5bIUQVM1mi7CRszrDh5x7ntbfsy9v3rRGZWYSZmoa3AH3FFCxkTbijBd_MsZtdEZUwkKwO7AosP2syvfey7IjildbBJ_hVnxm.L.km7NXv_A0mu3qhzpbLKW0- Received: from [213.78.182.231] by web25405.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 19 Jul 2007 22:47:54 BST Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 22:47:54 +0100 (BST) From: brian hodgson To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <009101c7ca37$15d87db0$0b646a58@wgt01> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <290328.96637.qm@web25405.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: 500 RTTY first 2 way Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1216203207-1184881674=:96637" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING, LINES_OF_YELLING_2,UPPERCASE_50_75 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 710 --0-1216203207-1184881674=:96637 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Gary & Graham - Congratualtions on the 500 kHz RTTY QSO. I once tried to stir up interest in RTTY on 136 KHz but got no takers. I've used PSK on 136 but that needs linear amps and not many LF ops have such kit. However, almost any transmitter can be used for FSK RTTY. I'd be most interested to hear how you produce the FSK signal. Regards - Brian Gary - G4WGT wrote: Hi LF, Just completed my first 2 way qso on 500 khz with Graham G0NBD & a possible claim for a first 2 way qso using narrow shift RTTY on 500 khz. The details are :- 19th July 1807utc to 1832utc RTTY - 30 Hz shift - 45.5 Bd. G4WGT - Coppull, Lancashire, UK - 50 mW ERP G0NBD - Wallasey, Cheshire, UK - 80 mW ERP Freq - 503.600 khz My report to Graham - RST 459 Grahams report to me RST 599 Unforntunately the copy was a bit broken due to Grahams RTTY program crashing on his Windows ME PC but we got complete exchanges & a short chat. I also had trouble with Tx & Rx in such that I had to use MMTTY for FSK Tx but I could not get it to Rx so I used MixW218 for Rx & had to keep swapping from one program to the other. I have copied some of the text from my screen (the first part had scrolled off) but it is a bit garbled in many places due to Grahams drop out & me having to re-sync the Rx program but as you can see we got there in the end. 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp LL VVSVEEVVVOS VVTVV TE VVTCVVPVLOOOOOOVVVL VIVVVVR VVVVR VV VVVLOOOOOOOVVPVVVVVLVVVVVVLRVVVVVVVVVVPVVVLYVVVVVVVVVOVVVBVVVVVVOBVVVVV VVVRSVV VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVXVVVLRVVVVLVVVLTVL VVVVVVVVV T VWRVLVVVLTVVVVVL VVVVVVVVVCEE VVVZVVVVBPVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV V VVVVVLTV V VG SMALL DROP OUT OF YOUR SIGNAL BUT ON THE WHOLE WE HAVE MADE A CONFIRMED 2 WAY RTTY QSO ON 500 KHZ ....WELL DONE TO BOTH OF US 1111 WSR SRI FINGER TROUBLE. 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Hi Gary & Graham -
 
Congratualtions on the 500 kHz RTTY QSO.
 
I once tried to stir up interest in RTTY on 136 KHz but got no takers.
 
I've used PSK on 136 but that needs linear amps and not many LF ops have such kit.
However, almost any transmitter can be used for FSK RTTY. I'd be most interested to hear how you produce the FSK signal.
 
Regards - Brian 

Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
Hi LF,

Just completed my first 2 way qso on 500 khz with Graham G0NBD & a possible
claim for a first 2 way qso using narrow shift RTTY on 500 khz.

The details are :-

19th July 1807utc to 1832utc
RTTY - 30 Hz shift - 45.5 Bd.
G4WGT - Coppull, Lancashire, UK - 50 mW ERP
G0NBD - Wallasey, Cheshire, UK - 80 mW ERP
Freq - 503.600 khz
My report to Graham - RST 459
Grahams report to me RST 599

Unforntunately the copy was a bit broken due to Grahams RTTY program
crashing on his Windows ME PC but we got complete exchanges & a short chat.
I also had trouble with Tx & Rx in such that I had to use MMTTY for FSK Tx
but I could not get it to Rx so I used MixW218 for Rx & had to keep swapping
from one program to the other.

I have copied some of the text from my screen (the first part had scrolled
off) but it is a bit garbled in many places due to Grahams drop out & me
having to re-sync the Rx program but as you can see we got there in the end.

73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp


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