Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2001 11:30:39 -0700 (PDT)
From: "John Sexton" <computernetworks@go.com>
Subject: Re: Re: LF: 183 carrier received in ZL
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Hi Daniel,
Thanks for the correction.
You live and learn as they say!
The Lat and Long I gave are correct, but it is just across the border in Germany, not France. Seems a rather curious arrangement?
73, John, G4CNN

-----Original Message-----
From: "f1tay"<f1tay@wanadoo.fr>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Wed Aug 15 07:26:12 PDT 2001
Subject: Re: LF: 183 carrier received in ZL

>The TX  LW of Europe 1 is in Germany not in France.>The studio is at Paris (France). Europe 1 is a french langage commerciale
>station created in 1955.
>
>Internet site on Europe 1 and France-Inter LW TX :
>http://home.worldnet.fr/~tvignaud/
>
>73 de Daniel
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "John Sexton" <computernetworks@go.com>
>To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 10:09 AM
>Subject: Re: LF: 183 carrier received in ZL
>
>
>> Hi Bob,
>> It sounds as though you have found it. When this station is not visible,
>there is no chance of receiving amateur transmissions from Europe.
>> Europe 1 is situated at Saarlouis, France 06E41/49N17.
>> This is a 2MW station and as you say does not conform to the 9 kHz raster
>for ITU 1. To achieve very high modulation depth, they compress the normal
>dynamic range of speech so that the sidebands are rather dense, but this may
>not be observable.
>> There is an image of the modulation on my web site at:
>http://www.g4cnn.f2s.com
>>
>> 73, John, G4CNN
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: "Vernall"<vernall@xtra.co.nz>
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> Date: Tue Aug 14 14:53:56 PDT 2001
>> Subject: LF: 183 carrier received in ZL
>>
>> >Hi all,>
>> >I report quite good reception of a 183 kHz carrier around ZL sunrise this
>> >morning.  I presume it is the German broadcast station, as the frequency
>is
>> >relatively unique, not being on the 9 kHz raster of carrier frequencies
>for
>> >LF AM broadcasting in ITU Region 1 (the standard frequencies are 181 and
>190
>> >kHz for that part of the band).
>> >
>> >I have a series of 3 Argo captures, which show some deep fades, but at
>best
>> >it is a very good "solid line" on Argo (30 second dot setting).
>> >
>> >I found the carrier frequency to be within 0.1 Hz of 183 kHz.  It would
>be
>> >good if a local amateur could confirm that the 183 carrier is very close
>to
>> >declared frequency.
>> >
>> >I was advised by Mike ZL4OL that sunrise/sunset times for mid August mean
>> >that the only dark path times for Germany to New Zealand are around ZL
>> >sunrise, and then for only tens of minutes.  183 carrier was received for
>> >much longer than that, but did build up and then drop out either side of
>the
>> >time for a dark path.  Reception of 183 around ZL sunset has been nil,
>but
>> >that is not surprising for current sunrise in Germany.
>> >
>> >There is perhaps a glimmer of hope for amateur QRP signals to make it
>> >between EU and ZL ????
>> >
>> >The ZL6QH trustee has made a request to the New Zealand licensing
>authority
>> >for the European 136 kHz band to be added to the existing low frequency
>> >permit.
>> >
>> >73, Bob ZL2CA
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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