Return-Path: Received: (qmail 22347 invoked from network); 22 May 2000 15:53:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by bells.core.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 22 May 2000 15:53:08 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12tuKu-0002hF-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 May 2000 16:41:44 +0100 Received: from helios.herts.ac.uk ([147.197.200.2]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12tuKt-0002hA-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 May 2000 16:41:43 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from [147.197.200.44] (helo=gemini) by helios.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.11 #1) id 12tuKr-0007mY-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 22 May 2000 16:41:41 +0100 Message-ID: <27785.200005221541@gemini> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 From: "James Moritz" Organization: University of Hertfordshire To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 22 May 2000 16:48:32 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: LF: Re: Best tone for aural copy In-reply-to: <3.0.1.16.20000522155342.2e97c76c@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be> References: <009501bfc3ef$311dcd60$370235d5@w8k3f0> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Dear LF Group, I am intrigued by the discussion about different tones, listening conditions, etc. Personally, I favour about 1kHz, but this might just be because that's the frequency which comes out of most of the receivers I have used. On the G3WSC Puckeridge expedition, I found it quite difficult to get used to other people's receivers, with a lower audio pitch. I agree that reducing the bandwidth does not help much when trying to copy a signal in the noise. Subjectively, as the bandwidth is reduced, the noise sounds more like the CW tone you are trying to copy, so although there may be less noise, it is harder to differentiate between it and the signal. It's a different story with QRM, when a narrow filter is very useful. I have also experienced the phenomenon of being able to copy weak signals well when in a different room to the receiver, or from the sound from headphones sitting on the table. I'm not sure about different CW speeds, however - at least for me, I can receive slow sending better, but then I struggle with fast sending even with no QRN! I'm now waiting for the RadCom article reviewing crockery to see which bowl gives the best signal-to-noise...... Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU