Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mp04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mp04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.193.72]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v129.10) with ESMTP id MAILINDD081-860e4dab40d71a3; Sun, 17 Apr 2011 15:34:47 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mp04.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 167DF380000AA; Sun, 17 Apr 2011 15:34:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1QBXj7-0002Oj-Hl for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2011 20:33:45 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1QBXj6-0002Oa-S6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2011 20:33:44 +0100 Received: from nm4.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.225]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QBXj6-000590-OS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Apr 2011 20:33:44 +0100 Received: from [217.146.183.184] by nm4.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Apr 2011 19:33:38 -0000 Received: from [217.146.183.60] by tm15.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Apr 2011 19:33:38 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1029.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Apr 2011 19:33:38 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 519623.52334.bm@omp1029.mail.ukl.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 37969 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Apr 2011 19:33:38 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1303068818; bh=O72IfGs2GeeM37xja1ARXegjYYpwd+OqX0Tr4dYUEOo=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=TYD+orbLk+giCiYtCaDNKsweK0IokWEG6UFucga0NCn4h+JxnK1QmygfdHlHFvgLxiiHeIHYLIo65dWWstR/n9iuD+o6iKRFDLFoH44XDIbypz+xXIWR8kLCV3kGkQlB1yememEmVm8yaPxPOti9RHcj+9V6FdHelR7QnuWmCCI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=gyhLqo5S4W+q91ndfBKVgjEgn30nVUEeiQJ23LWCgs0y2SXeSkMpqO3WLdSn+IG23/s7Ip0rHNpT6K6TO0QY82il4WzyUtNX7tFm9gIYHzGvlp52t1o4oP3WTCHYuNJMUHOMOgLIIlAen/qPcFKTqebT1x1HFcu2w8WyKhv5Zlg=; Message-ID: <274065.37961.qm@web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: EAc7ZnAVM1l0elz27gp_v_6jFEWfRi6I9eGkhQuHWOVPGuA JOLWEs3ve0bvE9CFY3Hc0_4FVCSZFy8RevZKow_gBC1ARIUvA8merodiwBFy hiXlqcgCt0t1I8cI_MbM1s1NOOwO1qQvwNy1yJM1AJ4nA6a621J8DJAG4Ykt tizwRrZBpI_q0Mbp33JiHcDk0kEIqGo3NwUTssj2gchjMr90IimXrtgR7FnC sRr82ltXx9psQFQE2YNgEeDE_njIiSoQxX4f7FbtOEvIgNCWXsdcqzI7eDlq BHvR1FPsO0OGOEO9TVs8uAomxyeeO3A.CCD.v3cNmut1R8EkwgogWwrKAwh9 d5F1Uj6DwKJfg4Lc.hdsK Received: from [86.156.202.116] by web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 17 Apr 2011 20:33:37 BST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.109.295617 References: <598984.92253.qm@web28504.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 20:33:37 +0100 (BST) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <598984.92253.qm@web28504.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: VLF - G3XIZ - Now QRT Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-7288176-1303068817=:37961" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m266.2 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1dc1484dab40d5001f X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --0-7288176-1303068817=:37961 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Chris and LF A big thank you to you Chris for all the work you have put into this exerc= ise.=20 Hope the results to date have been worth it. I guessed you had gone off bu= t you=20 were into the noise with me by then. The noise really comes up on VLF at= night=20 around here. =A073 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX=20 ________________________________ From: Chris Osborn To: LF Group Sent: Sun, 17 April, 2011 19:07:06 Subject: LF: VLF - G3XIZ - Now QRT LF, I went QRT on VLF at about 17.00Z today. Many thanks for all reports over the weekend and I shall give a summary la= ter in=20 the week. Balloon (and kite) launching from my home QTH is difficult and at times qu= ite=20 stressful. I have to be ever vigilant that the balloons (or kite) don't hit local hou= ses=20 (TV / FM radio aerials) or come down in the adjacent playing field (childr= en +=20 EHT !) I have a reasonable PA which if properly matched could give several hundre= d=20 watts of RF. At present I get at best about 140 watts. I am still using the mains matching transformer between the PA and the loa= ding=20 coil and this has a step-up ratio of 1:24 Energizing the PA with a higher voltage than its present 30V is not an opt= ion as=20 the matching transformer is already running over-voltage and would doubtle= ss=20 break down. It has been suggested that I use link coupling to the loading coil from th= e PA=20 but the one time I tried this caused damage to both the PA and the coil,= so you=20 will sympathise with my reluctance to try that again! I will continue for a few weeks and see if I manage to get 'real' success= with=20 the balloons or kite assisted aerials. I was considering taking apart an old PC PSU and using the output transfor= mer=20 from that instead on my present iron-laminated mains transformer. I believe that PC types will be more suitable and handle higher voltages. I plan to transmit over the Easter holiday but beyond that I am uncertain. I have a plan to try /P during the summer but this depends on gaining the= =20 permission of the land owner, which I am waiting for at present. I am getting consistent reports from my 'regulars' but now need a step cha= nge in=20 my VLF progress. 73 Chris G3XIZ --0-7288176-1303068817=:37961 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Chris and LF
 
A big thank you to you Chris for all the work you have put into this= exercise. Hope the results to date have been worth it. I guessed you had= gone off but you were into the noise with me by then. The noise really co= mes up on VLF at night around here.
 
73 es GL Pete M0FMT IO9= 1UX=20

=

From: Chris Osborn <g3x= iz@yahoo.co.uk>
To:= LF Group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Sun, 17 April, 2011 19:07:06
Subject: LF: VLF - G3XIZ - Now QRT
=

LF,

I went QRT on VLF at about 17.00Z today.
Ma= ny thanks for all reports over the weekend and I shall give a summary late= r in the week.

Balloon (and kite) launching from my home QTH is dif= ficult and at times quite stressful.
I have to be ever vigilant that th= e balloons (or kite) don't hit local houses (TV / FM radio aerials) or com= e down in the adjacent playing field (children + EHT !)

I have a re= asonable PA which if properly matched could give several hundred watts of= RF.
At present I get at best about 140 watts.
I am still using the= mains matching transformer between the PA and the loading coil and this= has a step-up ratio of 1:24

Energizing the PA with a higher voltag= e than its present 30V is not an option as the matching transformer is alr= eady running over-voltage and would doubtless break down.

It has be= en suggested that I use link coupling to the loading coil from the PA but= the one time I tried this caused damage to both the PA and the coil, so you will sympa= thise with my reluctance to try that again!

I will continue for a= few weeks and see if I manage to get 'real' success with the balloons or= kite assisted aerials.

I was considering taking apart an old PC PS= U and using the output transformer from that instead on my present iron-la= minated mains transformer.
I believe that PC types will be more suitabl= e and handle higher voltages.

I plan to transmit over the Easter ho= liday but beyond that I am uncertain.
I have a plan to try /P during th= e summer but this depends on gaining the permission of the land owner, whi= ch I am waiting for at present.

I am getting consistent reports fro= m my 'regulars' but now need a step change in my VLF progress.

73Chris G3XIZ



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