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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Laurence, wow, that's not too bad either! It looks like I may have to add JP1OPJ to my opds search list ;-) [...] Content analysis details: (0.6 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [205.188.109.202 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (markusvester[at]aol.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.4 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid 1.0 FREEMAIL_REPLY From and body contain different freemails X-Scan-Signature: 14522a7d8bfffcae5e92e35059f18ae1 Subject: Re: LF: Overnight from KL7 - Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0036_01CED10C.DBFAC2E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 2574 Dies ist eine mehrteilige Nachricht im MIME-Format. ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01CED10C.DBFAC2E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Laurence, wow, that's not too bad either!=20 It looks like I may have to add JP1OPJ to my opds search list ;-)=20 Yes the frequency of your Loran would fit GRI 7430, participating = stations are Rongcheng, Xuangcheng and (as you said) Helong. The power = of an individual line around 137 kHz has been estimated to the order of = 50 microwatts. Assuming the lower sideband lines around 74 kHz are = similar magnitude, seeing it across the pacific is quite a feat. Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) From: Laurence KL7 L=20 Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 5:51 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Overnight from KL7 - Morning Chaps =3D =20 74kHz (10ft diameter Octoloop 17T 1.5nF VE7SL design) =20 -Hoping to get a full call from Dex when conditions improve up here and = near solid from Bob - I I think Im seeing Helong Loran Line (?) at = 74,549.1251680 pre dawn ut Im looking at old GRI data calc and probably = wrong. =20 474kHz =20 Good WSPR2 decodes from WG2XIQ from 1054-1122Z at around 5000Kms (2T = K9AY East) =20 136kHz (L400b probe omni) =20 WSPR15 UAOAET at 1445 @ 5800kms - new one in WSPR I think =20 Op32 VE7BDQ multiple decodes :-)=20 JP1OPJ @ 1413 - new one at 3459 miles or so =20 Laurence KL7 L Palmer Wasilla BP51IP=20 =20 (in VE6)=20 =20 =20 =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- From: rjraide@hotmail.com To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 10:13:23 -0400 Subject: RE: LF: 74kHz - WG2XRS/5 callsign at last (2of2) Congrats to Mike and Dex on the capture! It's just a matter of sticking = it out. I expect things to get even better as temps drop and soil = conductivities increase. I would hope the noise drops to something like = that of 137 noise levels. May never be as low as that band but = hopefully better than it has been here on the "new" top band. Some very early in the evening captures are very impressive! Laurence also showed near full call captures last night as I looked at = his grabber later on in the evening. Thanks to Mike and Henny for great work as usual-back at it again = tonight! Bob =20 > Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 09:06:22 -0400 > From: dexter.mc@gmail.com > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: 74kHz - WG2XRS/5 callsign at last (2of2) >=20 > Mike Dennison wrote: > > More pics including the XRS/5 caps. > Thanks Mike! That's a keeper. >=20 > Dex >=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0036_01CED10C.DBFAC2E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Laurence,
 
wow, that's not too bad either! =
 
It looks like I may have to add = JP1OPJ=20 to my opds search list ;-)
 
Yes the frequency of your Loran would fit GRI 7430, = participating=20 stations are Rongcheng, Xuangcheng and (as you said) Helong. The power = of=20 an individual line around 137 kHz has been estimated to the = order=20 of 50 microwatts. Assuming the lower sideband lines around 74=20 kHz are similar magnitude, seeing it across the pacific is = quite a=20 feat.
 
Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)
 

From: Laurence KL7 L
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 2013 5:51 PM
Subject: LF: Overnight from KL7 -


Morning Chaps=20 =3D
 
74kHz  (10ft = diameter=20 Octoloop 17T  1.5nF VE7SL design)
 
-Hoping to = get a=20 full call from Dex when conditions improve up here and near solid = from=20 Bob - I I think Im seeing Helong Loran Line (?) at  74,549.1251680 pre dawn ut Im looking at old GRI data = calc and=20 probably wrong.
 
474kHz
 
Good WSPR2 decodes = from=20 WG2XIQ  from 1054-1122Z at around 5000Kms  (2T K9AY=20 East)
 
136kHz (L400b probe omni)
 
WSPR15
UAOAET at 1445 @ 5800kms - new one in WSPR I=20 think
 
Op32
VE7BDQ multiple = decodes :-)=20
JP1OPJ @ 1413  - new one at = 3459 miles=20 or so
 
Laurence KL7 L Palmer Wasilla BP51IP 
 
 (in VE6)=20
 

 
From: rjraide@hotmail.com
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: = Thu, 24=20 Oct 2013 10:13:23 -0400
Subject: RE: LF: 74kHz - WG2XRS/5 callsign at = last=20 (2of2)

Congrats to Mike and Dex on the capture!  It's just = a matter=20 of sticking it out.  I expect things to get even better as temps = drop and=20 soil conductivities increase.  I would hope the noise drops to = something=20 like that of 137 noise levels.  May never be as low as that band = but=20 hopefully better than it has been here on the "new" top = band.
Some very=20 early in the evening captures are very impressive!
Laurence also = showed near=20 full call captures last night as I looked at his grabber later on in the = evening.
Thanks to Mike and Henny for great work as usual-back at it = again=20 tonight!
Bob

 
> Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 09:06:22 -0400
> From:=20 dexter.mc@gmail.com
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> = Subject:=20 Re: LF: 74kHz - WG2XRS/5 callsign at last (2of2)
>
> Mike = Dennison=20 wrote:
> > More pics including the XRS/5 caps.
> Thanks = Mike!=20 That's a keeper.
>
> Dex
>=20
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