Return-Path: X-Spam-DCC: paranoid 1170; Body=2 Fuz1=2 Fuz2=2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.3 (2006-06-01) on lipkowski.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DNS_FROM_AHBL_RHSBL, FORGED_RCVD_HELO,SUBJ_RE_NUM autolearn=no version=3.1.3 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by paranoid.lipkowski.org (8.13.7/8.13.7) with ESMTP id t9GErOwQ018284 for ; Fri, 16 Oct 2015 16:53:24 +0200 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Zn6Kq-0005N2-UP for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Oct 2015 15:50:20 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Zn6Kq-0005Mt-LF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Oct 2015 15:50:20 +0100 Received: from smarthost01a.mail.zen.net.uk ([212.23.1.1]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.86) (envelope-from ) id 1Zn6Jm-0006CZ-GR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Oct 2015 15:50:19 +0100 Received: from [82.70.254.222] (helo=OfficeWin7.lan) by smarthost01a.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1Zn6JT-00044n-7Z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 16 Oct 2015 14:48:55 +0000 Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 15:48:54 +0100 From: Chris Wilson Organization: Gatesgarth Developments X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <265609317.20151016154854@chriswilson.tv> To: Graham In-Reply-To: <10FBC32E57324835BDD4008B3133BC11@AGB> References: <1541636554.20151013163425@chriswilson.tv> <43464DACBFAA49C08A73FB93FFF52105@gnat> <603371935.20151014123307@chriswilson.tv> <9E19F2EA072B4AE3A7A112534A29B460@gnat> <323462263.20151015234436@chriswilson.tv> <57405F26C6A94F04B25E124CC1F9814B@gnat> <867200100.20151016094832@chriswilson.tv> <10FBC32E57324835BDD4008B3133BC11@AGB> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-smarthost01a-IP: [82.70.254.222] X-Scan-Signature: 9d01e9df836df8dd3868645661e1c1f7 Subject: Re[2]: LF: Re: Should I be aiming for a better match than this? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.56 on 10.1.3.10 Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 4406 Hello Graham, Friday, October 16, 2015 > I am wondering if this feedback or whatever sometimes happens has > damaged a FET, can one or more of the 4 fail and still leave it > operational, but with reduced power and more reflected power? > Sorry to read that Chris , > I often thought wspr would of been better named 'ICARUS' , you > where +10 dB and more in hand on your OP32 spots , I did see G3XKR > showing -4 dB on the first day , but only the one time, later spots > where lower , [the s/n is the average over the tx cycle and quite > accurate], > Could problems of struck after this ? > The reflected power, is most likely to be the return of harmonic > energy from the ATU, caused by waveform distortion, your class e/d amp is > based on producing a pulse train, fo is recovered by the filter / ATU , > One of the £5 usb dongles in ds with sharp-sdr , will give you a > usable spectrum plot of the relative levels , f0,f1,f2 f3 etc > 73-Graham.. I have found the Zobel network resistor (22 Ohms, 25W) badly overheated but not open. I also found one leg of one of the 4n7 caps on the primary of T1 the output transformer broken. I don't have another metal clad panel mount of the right resistance unless I parallel two 47 Ohm 50 Watt ones, but there's not enough physical space, so I have put the old one back until a new one arrives, and renewed the 2kV 4n7 cap. I now see roughly square waves from both sides of the output, looking before the filter network. Before I had only one squarish wave and a funny wiggle showing on the scope. I would like to know if the broken leg on this cap could have caused the Zobel wirewound to overheat though. As I noticed the odour days ago. Sadly my inexperience has made me build the thing with scant reagrd to access for repairs or even to look for smoke. If I did it again I would spread stuff about more in a single layer! The meter still doesn't seem to read as high FWD, as it did, and shows some reflected power, but it seems to be getting out OK again. As I am learning a lot as I go it's no big deal. If it just worked I wouldn't have learnt half as much about HOW it works as I do now :) It's TX'ing OPERA 32 on 136 kHzas I type. Maybe now the output stage is correct again the loading needs tweaking a bit. Scopematch looks OK though. Thanks for the reply Graham. -- Best regards, Chris mailto:chris@chriswilson.tv