Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11568 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2001 13:47:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by extortion.plus.net with SMTP; 1 Feb 2001 13:47:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 22115 invoked from network); 1 Feb 2001 13:50:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 1 Feb 2001 13:50:16 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14OK1c-0003IM-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Feb 2001 13:43:48 +0000 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from gigi.excite.com ([199.172.152.110]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14OK1b-0003IH-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 01 Feb 2001 13:43:47 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from bronty ([199.172.153.112]) by gigi.excite.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with ESMTP id <20010201134303.VSQE13736.gigi.excite.com@bronty> for ; Thu, 1 Feb 2001 05:43:03 -0800 Message-ID: <25478697.981034983200.JavaMail.imail@bronty> Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 05:42:53 -0800 (PST) From: "john sexton" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: The dual lines on 137.790 ..source?? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Excite Inbox X-Sender-Ip: 62.253.64.5 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Hi Alan, I don't think the dual lines are spurs from DCF42/49. The only spur around this frequency is at 137.7921. I calculated a complete list from Markus email and posted it on my web page: www.g4cnn.f2s.com, in a section dealing with Loran lines and other spurs. However 136501.8 Hz, which I reported this morning in my record of monitoring Jack last night is one of these spurs and is specifically mentioned in Markus email. Yes the dual lines do indeed disappear at local dawn though occasionally pop up again for some minutes afterwards rather weakly and as you say Larry's signal does not change sharply but slowly reduces over the next couple of hours or so. So I agree with your conclusion that they (the dual lines) are probably from the east. >From charts in a rather ancient handbook of the BAA, sunrise on 31 Jan is about 7.40, whereas I saw the QRN watershed about 6.20 on that date. The shadow edge is over the middle of Poland at that time. 73, John, G4CNN PS I tried to send this just to the sub-group, but did not succeed. Hence the copy on the reflector. _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/