Return-Path: <owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dk01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 3B04938000086; Sun, 25 Dec 2011 06:48:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1RemXs-0007fr-QD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Dec 2011 11:47:16 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1RemXs-0007fh-6M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Dec 2011 11:47:16 +0000 Received: from mta-13.siol.net ([193.189.160.143]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from <s52ab@siol.com>) id 1RemXp-0007AC-78 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 25 Dec 2011 11:47:16 +0000 Received: from mail-7.siol.net ([10.10.10.108]) by mta-13.siol.net with ESMTP id <20111225114711.USGZ19479.mta-13.siol.net@mail-7.siol.net> for <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>; Sun, 25 Dec 2011 12:47:11 +0100 Received: from konda03bf4520e ([89.142.14.196]) by mail-7.siol.net with SMTP id <20111225114710.FSMH2829.mail-7.siol.net@konda03bf4520e> for <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>; Sun, 25 Dec 2011 12:47:10 +0100 Message-ID: <2524BDFD6ECA48A7B37F009B4762F6B3@konda03bf4520e> From: "Joze Konda - S52AB" <s52ab@siol.com> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> References: <1398228979.206018.1324806559157.JavaMail.www@wwinf1g12> Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 12:46:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=G0V/1ZnxdnYhIPQfiKM1eP0qnP8iCViBFbK0u3I4AAk= c=1 sm=0 a=QcIHmIcIByIA:10 a=kD9N_VxP5WMA:10 a=JC8TvPNrAAAA:8 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=sROv2SbEAAAA:8 a=JAralIE_AAAA:8 a=mR2slA2DAAAA:8 a=fnYqA7hvAAAA:8 a=j6Q1dnSHAAAA:8 a=8P0jffWtAAAA:20 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=sLb4iQUyCkOUs2KzVvEA:9 a=gcVMTQID4L26MNPLPMkA:7 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=gA6IeH5FQcgA:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 a=1XWaLZrsAAAA:8 a=AlR102E1a-THTcFpxrAA:9 a=SuSWPvklHaeJJVzZ3WwA:7 a=tXsnliwV7b4A:10 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 X-Spam-Score: 3.5 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126 Subject: Re: Re: LF: Re: SAQ / RDL Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000A_01CCC303.48FCD870" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.3 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_40_50, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 1:2:514943616:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 1 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1db4054ef70d960b2d X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01CCC303.48FCD870 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable HI VLFers RDL - 18.1kHz: http://lea.hamradio.si/~s52ab/forum/rdl18.1khz_konec-id-zacetek.jpg http://lea.hamradio.si/~s52ab/forum/rdl18.1khz_sporo%e8ilo1.mp3 Merry XMAS and HNY 2012 Joze, s52ab ----- Original Message -----=20 From: David PRIJAC=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2011 10:49 AM Subject: tr: Re: LF: Re: SAQ / RDL Hi LF, I confirmed. The signal on 18.1 Khz is RDL on the site of Krasnodar. 2 types of modulation are used : FSK (shift 75 Hz, 50 bd) and CWK = (morse on continuous wave). For CWK, on is "mark" and off is "space". On theY messageS, we can = read tree times "RDL" and after few numbers. There is also just tree "X" = before shore messages. Here for example, a CWK transmission before FSK : = http://www.supload.com/listen?s=3DBPTDgA On 18.3 Khz, there is HWU, French Navy. Strong and continuous = transmission. 73, David F-60130 > Message du 24/12/11 18:13 > De : "Roger Lapthorn"=20 > A : rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Copie =C3=A0 :=20 > Objet : Re: LF: Re: SAQ / RDL >=20 > I've an idea RDL is one of the Russian stations. >=20 > RUS RDL Krasnodar * =20 > MIL HQ Moskva VLF network=20 RUS RDL Nizhny Novgorod * =20 > MIL HQ Moskva VLF network=20 RUS RDL Arkhangelsk * =20 > MIL HQ Moskva VLF network=20 > 73s > Roger G3XBM >=20 >=20 On 24 December 2011 15:50, <kkrallis@tee.gr> wrote: >=20 > The morning was not a complete write-off. Something interesting = was > > heard: a strong FSK about 1 kHz up and just below that there = was another > > FSK > > sending RDL and numerals in CW. Did anyone else here this? >=20 >=20 Yes, Joe, I heard it on about 18.1 kHz, it was actually > using F1B mode (FSK Morse code). The signal on 18.3 kHz > was also strong. The two signals show as a double peak > on the spectrogram: >=20 > http://www.flickr.com/photos/g7ahn/6564502493/in/photostream >=20 > Merry Xmas and 73 DE SV1XV/SV3 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > http://qss2.blogspot.com/ > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/ >=20 >=20 >=20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 10.0.1416 / Virus Database: 2109/4101 - Release Date: = 12/24/11 ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01CCC303.48FCD870 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META http-equiv=3DContent-Type content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"> <META content=3D"MSHTML 6.00.6000.17093" name=3DGENERATOR> <STYLE></STYLE> </HEAD> <BODY bgColor=3D#ffffff> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>HI VLFers</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>RDL - 18.1kHz:</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20 href=3D"http://lea.hamradio.si/~s52ab/forum/rdl18.1khz_konec-id-zacetek.j= pg">http://lea.hamradio.si/~s52ab/forum/rdl18.1khz_konec-id-zacetek.jpg</= A></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20 href=3D"http://lea.hamradio.si/~s52ab/forum/rdl18.1khz_sporo%e8ilo1.mp3">= http://lea.hamradio.si/~s52ab/forum/rdl18.1khz_sporo%e8ilo1.mp3</A></FONT= ></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Merry XMAS and HNY 2012</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Joze, s52ab</FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; = BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV> <DIV=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: = black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Dprijac.david@orange.fr = href=3D"mailto:prijac.david@orange.fr">David=20 PRIJAC</A> </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A = title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 = href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= </A>=20 </DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December 25, 2011 = 10:49=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> tr: Re: LF: Re: SAQ / = RDL</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV><BR>Hi LF,<BR><BR>I confirmed. The signal on 18.1 Khz = is RDL on=20 the site of Krasnodar.<BR>2 types of modulation are used : FSK (shift = 75 Hz,=20 50 bd) and CWK (morse on continuous wave).<BR>For CWK, on is "mark" = and off is=20 "space". On theY messageS, we can read tree times "RDL" and after few = numbers.=20 There is also just tree "X" before shore messages.<BR>Here for=20 example, a CWK transmission before FSK : <A=20 = href=3D"http://www.supload.com/listen?s=3DBPTDgA">http://www.supload.com/= listen?s=3DBPTDgA</A><BR><BR>On=20 18.3 Khz, there is HWU, French Navy. Strong and continuous=20 transmission.<BR><BR>73,<BR>David<BR>F-60130<BR><BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #ff0000 2px = solid">>=20 Message du 24/12/11 18:13<BR>> De : "Roger Lapthorn" <BR>> A : = rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org<BR>> Copie =C3=A0 : <BR>> Objet : = Re: LF: Re:=20 SAQ / RDL<BR>> <BR>> I've an idea RDL is one of the Russian=20 stations.<BR>> <BR>>=20 <TABLE border=3D0> <TBODY> <TR vAlign=3Dtop> <TD class=3Dtdblau align=3Dright>RUS</TD> <TD class=3Dtdschwarz> </TD> <TD class=3Dtdschwarz>RDL </TD> <TD class=3Dtdschwarz><A class=3Dlocation3=20 = href=3D"http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=3D45.403403,38.158111&=3D0.038= 05,0.06727&t=3Dk&hl=3Den"=20 target=3D_blank>Krasnodar *</A> </TD> <TD> </TD> <TD class=3Dtdblau align=3Dright><BR>> </TD> <TD> </TD> <TD class=3Dtddunkelgrau>MIL HQ Moskva VLF network</TD></TR> <TR vAlign=3Dtop> <TD class=3Dtdblau align=3Dright>RUS</TD> <TD class=3Dtdschwarz> </TD> <TD class=3Dtdschwarz>RDL </TD> <TD class=3Dtdschwarz><A class=3Dlocation3=20 = href=3D"http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=3D56.172861,43.933833&=3D0.038= 05,0.06727&t=3Dk&hl=3Den"=20 target=3D_blank>Nizhny Novgorod *</A> </TD> <TD> </TD> <TD class=3Dtdblau align=3Dright><BR>> </TD> <TD> </TD> <TD class=3Dtddunkelgrau>MIL HQ Moskva VLF network</TD></TR> <TR vAlign=3Dtop> <TD class=3Dtdblau align=3Dright>RUS</TD> <TD class=3Dtdschwarz> </TD> <TD class=3Dtdschwarz>RDL </TD> <TD class=3Dtdschwarz><A class=3Dlocation3=20 = href=3D"http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=3D64.360492,41.568489&=3D0.038= 05,0.06727&t=3Dk&hl=3Den"=20 target=3D_blank>Arkhangelsk *</A> </TD> <TD> </TD> <TD class=3Dtdblau align=3Dright><BR>> </TD> <TD> </TD> <TD class=3Dtddunkelgrau>MIL HQ Moskva VLF=20 network</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><BR>> 73s<BR>> Roger = G3XBM<BR>>=20 <BR>>=20 <P class=3Dgmail_quote=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0px; = MARGIN: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px">On=20 24 December 2011 15:50, <SPAN><<A=20 href=3D"mailto:kkrallis@tee.gr">kkrallis@tee.gr</A>></SPAN> = wrote:<BR>>=20 </P> <BLOCKQUOTE=20 style=3D"PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: = #ccc 1px solid"> <P class=3Dim=20 style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 0px; PADDING-BOTTOM: = 0px; MARGIN: 0px; PADDING-TOP: 0px">>=20 The morning was not a complete write-off. Something = interesting=20 was<BR>> > heard: a strong FSK about 1 kHz up and just below = that=20 there was another<BR>> > FSK<BR>> > sending RDL and = numerals=20 in CW. Did anyone else here this?<BR>> <BR>> </P>Yes, = Joe, I=20 heard it on about 18.1 kHz, it was actually<BR>> using F1B mode = (FSK=20 Morse code). The signal on 18.3 kHz<BR>> was also strong. The = two=20 signals show as a double peak<BR>> on the spectrogram:<BR>> = <BR>>=20 <A = href=3D"http://www.flickr.com/photos/g7ahn/6564502493/in/photostream"=20 = target=3D_blank>http://www.flickr.com/photos/g7ahn/6564502493/in/photostr= eam</A><BR>>=20 <BR>> Merry Xmas and 73 DE SV1XV/SV3<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> = <BR>>=20 </BLOCKQUOTE><BR>> <BR><BR>> -- <BR>> <FONT=20 color=3D#888888></FONT><FONT color=3D#888888><A = href=3D"http://qss2.blogspot.com/"=20 target=3D_blank>http://qss2.blogspot.com/</A><BR>> </FONT><FONT=20 color=3D#888888><A href=3D"http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/"=20 target=3D_blank>http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/</A></FONT><BR>> = <FONT=20 color=3D#888888><A href=3D"http://www.g3xbm.co.uk"=20 target=3D_blank>http://www.g3xbm.co.uk</A><BR>> <A=20 href=3D"https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/"=20 target=3D_blank>https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/</A><BR>> = <BR>>=20 </FONT><BR>> </BLOCKQUOTE> <HR noShade SIZE=3D1> <A></A> <P class=3Davgcert align=3Dleft color=3D"#000000">No virus found in = this=20 message.<BR>Checked by AVG - <A=20 href=3D"http://www.avg.com">www.avg.com</A><BR>Version: 10.0.1416 / = Virus=20 Database: 2109/4101 - Release Date: = 12/24/11</P></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML> ------=_NextPart_000_000A_01CCC303.48FCD870--