Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dc04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dc04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.132]) by air-mf10.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF103-8bff4c7d2c6a35d; Tue, 31 Aug 2010 12:23:06 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-dc04.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 44905380000C0; Tue, 31 Aug 2010 12:23:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1OqTb0-0004nO-7b for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Aug 2010 17:22:02 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1OqTaz-0004nF-J2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Aug 2010 17:22:01 +0100 Received: from smtp824.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.9]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OqTYi-00022u-F9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 31 Aug 2010 17:21:56 +0100 Received: (qmail 68072 invoked from network); 31 Aug 2010 16:17:08 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=BNGXjpbazKwasc46yDNRmp1zS60q9+wvdfnKMhfnL/6MDZgJWYdhbDJknKzqHaDQ36zk4XLJvxLTzkgjFiOKwUwV9ctjz+ChWe6JY6Y7u5HI+KdWgAX3bM/0JgoYmL/mDpeAZ12w+/qYS5t9muYFTgId6bpWy8hdHG0gG7u6vGA= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1283271428; bh=JQGarJKL3shPkwKFnr51gQzYlsN2z/UnPfCqwENlBmY=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=lDbYVlXMbKCCJ+p1S8ta03gvioGBP1XN+E/P6F2qJ62HHZ1QbhcX+qGVf3D8YL2X1MX6S99QxiODPQoUPnDNAHQSyVsivMBTfY/puX0sd6yG7ZPDt0vpPUMmuMDVPba/RMD+PuWGOZ0HIMQzIxMKGnW5TiC0yYy/1hYb3ZwkM7o= Received: from IBM7FFA209F07C (c.ashby435@81.131.156.1 with login) by smtp824.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 31 Aug 2010 16:17:06 +0000 GMT X-Yahoo-SMTP: .u8e2g.swBByWKjbpA3lR6Fw.2ZEQrJJpVsTSrpXLCffsPaCEMY- X-YMail-OSG: BgKpYzAVM1m0FbSZ.lv3snObu_eRCef.CBuj9PF1Kknkuwj Fb5JalTuzw.12SQa32JofjbrW37nZ_mHpJ9SI1z24oHkcyDDX0wJb4sML5.p ZjGGQjRU7lM_DnYUPtajZdiTc2VhI_..IjQk7bQWR1nAcd0kx2y5guWoN.tK cEsEoQz3uTkGRisZhdIgrDDqGgbcowzx.Wv9FnCV7YGZN81HMcIhZHJG8U.6 XQzFiHTK_bHUZlbqknow4LcDAP_pE7TJkWr0a X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <24D4FB34875546119777299DA015D22B@IBM7FFA209F07C> From: "Chris" To: References: <802CAA7D45774399A1ACC27A83A552EF@IBM7FFA209F07C> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 2010 17:17:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5931 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Earth electrode "antenna" changes: reports needed on 500kHz + 136kHz please Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01CB4930.56DB94C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.3 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m236.1 ; domain : btinternet.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40844c7d2c6705f7 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01CB4930.56DB94C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No, nothing here at the moment Roger. F4DTL good copy on 137.72. 73s, G4AYT, JO01MI. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Roger Lapthorn=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 4:55 PM Subject: Re: LF: Re: Earth electrode "antenna" changes: reports need= ed on 500kHz + 136kHz please It is on now Chris. QRSS3 on 137.675kHz, but you are orthogonal to= the loop and I would not expect you to see me .....but life is full= of surprises! 73s Roger g3XBM On 31 August 2010 16:42, Chris wrote: Hi Roger, I'm not surprised it works better with an aerial! Will look for you on 137.675, what time are you starting? Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent, UK. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Roger Lapthorn=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2010 4:18 PM Subject: LF: Earth electrode "antenna" changes: reports needed= on 500kHz + 136kHz please Today I've changed my earth electrode antenna system: instead of= running the wire to the far electrode along the garden fence only abo= ut 1.5m in the air I've now made the wire form a loop, bringing the wi= re up in the air some 4m, running it back to the house about 17m to th= e top of my pole, then down 6m vertically and into the house. This mea= ns the area enclosed by the loop part in the air has increased some 3= to 4 times but that part within the ground between the electrodes is= unchanged. On 500kHz WSPR I'm ~6dB stronger with M0BMU at 69kms than= it was on the original earth electrode antenna. This evening I'm going to try 137.675kHz QRSS3 beaconing with th= is new set-up and would appreciate reports. 73s Roger G3XBM --=20 http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk http://www.youtube.com/user/g3xbm G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --=20 http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk http://www.youtube.com/user/g3xbm G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01CB4930.56DB94C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
No, nothing here at the moment Roger.=
F4DTL good copy on 137.72.
73s,
G4AYT, JO01MI.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 201= 0 4:55=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Re: Earth el= ectrode=20 "antenna" changes: reports needed on 500kHz + 136kHz please

It is on now Chris. QRSS3 on 137.675kHz, but you are= orthogonal=20 to the loop and I would not expect you to see me  .....but life= is full=20 of surprises!

73s
Roger g3XBM

On 31 August 2010 16:42, Chris <c.ashby435@bt= internet.com>=20 wrote:
Hi Roger,
I'm not surprised it works better= with an=20 aerial!
Will look for you on 137.675, wha= t time are you=20 starting?
Chris, G4AYT, Whitstable, Kent,= =20 UK.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Roger Lapthorn
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 31,= 2010 4:18=20 PM
Subject: LF: Earth electr= ode=20 "antenna" changes: reports needed on 500kHz + 136kHz please

Today I've changed my earth electrode antenna sys= tem:=20 instead of running the wire to the far electrode along the garde= n fence=20 only about 1.5m in the air I've now made the wire form a loop,= bringing=20 the wire up in the air some 4m, running it back to the house abo= ut 17m to=20 the top of my pole, then down 6m vertically and into the house.= This means=20 the area enclosed by the loop part in the air has increased some= 3 to 4=20 times but that part within the ground between the electrodes is= unchanged.=20 On 500kHz WSPR I'm ~6dB stronger with M0BMU at 69kms than it was= on the=20 original earth electrode antenna.

This evening I'm goi= ng to try=20 137.675kHz QRSS3 beaconing with this new set-up and would apprec= iate=20 reports.

73s
Roger G3XBM

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