Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 3082838000097; Mon, 28 May 2012 15:55:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1SZ60E-0008Lg-9N for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 May 2012 20:53:18 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1SZ60D-0008LX-Rg for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 May 2012 20:53:17 +0100 Received: from smtpout5.wanadoo.co.uk ([80.12.242.80] helo=smtpout.wanadoo.co.uk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SZ60C-0006Et-0D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 May 2012 20:53:16 +0100 Received: from AGB ([2.26.8.45]) by mwinf5d61 with ME id FXt61j00c0yHih603Xt7Nn; Mon, 28 May 2012 21:53:15 +0200 Message-ID: <24B011E2D7E840978C5188935F8138C7@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <4FC1126C.11635.CFA0D5@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> <006c01cd3b8e$00d27600$4001a8c0@lark> In-Reply-To: <006c01cd3b8e$00d27600$4001a8c0@lark> Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 20:53:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 X-Antivirus: avast! 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[...] Content analysis details: (0.2 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.12.242.80 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.2 STOX_REPLY_TYPE STOX_REPLY_TYPE X-Scan-Signature: fb3e28a759dea7e01d34d3fe7de7ae98 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Opera QRM picture Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:450933888:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40594fc3d8167cdc X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : temperror After some investigations by those using the Op system, General consensus is , The posted image is not a Op transmission, for OP8 there should be a 8 second cyclic modulation with approx 50 % MK-SP ratio. or in the case of OP32 32 seconds , the transmission should last 8 or 32 minutes. The indicted stability would prevent a decode The carrier placement routine seeks to place the carrier at the lowest s/n point in the defined pass band , to prevent overlaying of transmissions If under direct VFO control, the operator is responsible for the placement , noting that when operating at the lower levels , it may not be possible to see or hear the signal's , this would not appear to be the case in this instance. As for spectrum efficiency, up to 4 and possibly more transmissions could be fitted in the space occupied by the various frequency dependant modes, so its most unlikely that conflicts will occur. G.. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Alan Melia" Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 10:18 PM To: Subject: LF: Re: Opera QRM picture > Hi Mike yes but it doesnt mean that digital mode ops dont need to listen > on > the frequency.....that old law of amateur radio :-)) > > Alan > G3NYK > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Dennison" > To: > Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2012 5:27 PM > Subject: LF: Opera QRM picture > > >> Here is a picture of an Opera signal on 137.695kHz accidentally >> QRMing my QSO with a very weak DR650BAR - his DFCW10 can be seen >> sending the 'V'of 'XDV' and the 'B' of 'BAR' in DFCW before the QRM >> starts. >> >> Now, that's why we do bandplanning. >> >> Mike, G3XDV >> ========== >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > >> The following section of this message contains a file attachment >> prepared for transmission using the Internet MIME message format. >> If you are using Pegasus Mail, or any other MIME-compliant system, >> you should be able to save it or view it from within your mailer. >> If you cannot, please ask your system administrator for assistance. >> >> ---- File information ----------- >> File: Opera_QRM.jpg >> Date: 26 May 2012, 17:17 >> Size: 50379 bytes. >> Type: JPEG-image >> > >