Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (rly-mg02.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.108]) by air-mg07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG072-9f74ad34dbd3ce; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:39:52 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG021-9f74ad34dbd3ce; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:39:43 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1MxMyW-00071B-Nz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:38:16 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1MxMyV-000712-W5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:38:16 +0100 Received: from web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.127]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MxMyL-0006nL-Gx for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 16:38:05 +0100 Received: (qmail 24524 invoked by uid 60001); 12 Oct 2009 15:38:00 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1255361880; bh=Lwl5MYzo33xxR56RucfLgWDB5/0jak7x2+T9UXSEHK4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=uGhbfctAXHcS5JWVa7TYEeoHaWKLhFS5HLfx08taM9F2mUQleSFeJTR0Yhg5peNweLyE/XgmAH6saJFMWguryMmIGMCwZrAu67qEmRp1184igwfOr2Cq0dCcZUUkSiOEnBUNxR+B/sImDZxVzjAErGv9G+7QREEfk6owbo/bNT0= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=T/bqf2HIxt23AhGXH3BAU4B6/5fSKlLot+ueXfbCMjaIY7axMTYxYTBo+0HM5zESFNd8ic2K8+frz927mfIEpqfdGfULgECnf7SddLwA0bV8GX1FNhZ7OxuSLNydmaPatozSFa7yXri0ej3eMS0WjMN/78UfV6MpNNYGmHcd+/Q=; Message-ID: <245132.24289.qm@web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: aUaYRMEVM1m6t5BmKyQlZFJZwPUysgdZC.k5SF8FbFyIuPoPjDR8N6S57IGLH2q0nIOc5ATGaQNi.0bxUaovdES0mY9RDCd5cXGJyzZPYa.EKKivAFwrWZA3o57Uz1Y48aCUwWgh74pxrhq3dn07BxkMcONP1RqZokFemIBZmv5Mf7r0XyQmMiXQDAQ3qtuP8dlm3OyoJZLY__KMiJycNW3FbqzMi75tBlfbOVMzshp0GMvRE1d037wJgRVZpN5y6aWRZx23OzXDSXE5FqsGPjnWDWkZie982JeUpgxh1FfJztWnV80ncq9u6o4QQbM0F2pnO9dU Received: from [86.140.73.79] by web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:37:59 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/7.0.14 YahooMailWebService/0.7.347.3 Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 08:37:59 -0700 (PDT) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <46E473FD33774FBBBA2D8B71FA543C1D@AGB> MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: MOFMT Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1695305711-1255361879=:24289" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d282.1 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-1695305711-1255361879=:24289 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ok Graham thanks for the info. =A0 If it was on the same frquency that was probably Dennis and me. We've been= on for abt an hour ...hee. Well I can only conclude it is ADSL because it= is just raising the noise floor it is=A0very subtle not really identifiab= le like say TV LTB, it's a mush. Frame ants help a bit but not as sensitiv= e at the LW by a mile. I use everything SDR software to niose blank and is= filtering down to 200hz=A0and Xtal filters on my Kenwood TS690s which has= all the filters.=A0=A0Its very depressing. I took my DC rx around to Chri= s XIZ abt 6miles away and=A0I could hear you on RTTY the other day a smash= ing signal. I have a similar ant set up I have a higher ASL and I am in op= en fields about 1/2=A0to a mile from the rest of humanity=A0but still have= noise....dohh!!! =A0 Any way gl Graham and thanks for the reports. Things will be picking up no= w with the season change=A0so hope to hear you for a twoway on 500kc/s soo= n. =A0 73 petefmt =A0 --- On Mon, 12/10/09, Graham wrote: From: Graham Subject: Re: LF: MOFMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Monday, 12 October, 2009, 3:36 PM Ok Peter=20 =A0 Should of given you a cal=A0then but was using the=A0 ft897=A0 at the=A0= time , with no=A0 tx on 500 , good signal at the time , odd=A0 for mid=A0= day ? some=A0 cw on at the moment 1530 bst , but=A0 quite=A0 low .. may= be the same tx ... noise level on the=A0 rx is showing s8 to=A0 s9 all da= y .... across the=A0 full band, interestingly=A0 the=A0 dsp noise reductio= n in the ft897=20 actually=A0 helps ..=A0 must be the=A0 right kind of noise ... =A0 As for the=A0 rx .. well in a direct test , swopping from the=A0 ft897 and= the=A0 ra1778m , the=A0 ft897=A0was =A0giving a better=A0 recovery of the= =A0 signal .. which is a bit disconcerting .. may be the=A0 wrong type of= noise for the 1778 xtal filters (1.4 mhz and do tend to=A0 ring a bit if= =A0pinged) , but iv'e had a few replies lately=A0 where I could not=A0 re= solve the=A0 other station, I think mainly=A0 due to=A0 the=A0 high level= of=A0 noise a the=A0 qth=20 =A0 73 Graham=20 =A0 =A0 From: M0FMT=20 Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 3:08 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: MOFMT Thanks Graham =A0 Not a beacon but a call, computer generated. Locally we try to have a qso= weekdays at around 11:45 or at some time over the lunch hour and again la= ter around 4:00 it=A0is a very loose sched with M0JXM Dennis and rarely M0= KHW.Ken. =A0Rog GW3UEP listens some times whch is remarkable=A0and reports= by e-mail=A0because I can't hear him its my RX or location (adsl noise?)= that is poor but=A0we should be reciprical. =A0 FYI the current rig is an xtal controlled=A0GW3UEP (ala UK500kHZ group) th= is week run off a laptop PSU very approx 35 watts output to a lw up 12m -= 40m lng. Tnx fer rprt, meanwhile back to the RX with a big hammer. =A0 73 petefmt --- On Mon, 12/10/09, Graham wrote: From: Graham Subject: LF: MOFMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Monday, 12 October, 2009, 12:34 PM M0FMT ,Good=A0=A0 569 from the=A0 35=A0 ft=A0 vertical (with atu=A0) ft897= -d speaker at 1200=A0 bst to=A0 day , normal speed=A0 cw , beacon or=A0 li= ve cq call =A0?=20 =A0 Graham =A0 G0NBD=A0 /. io83lk No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=20 Version: 8.5.421 / Virus Database: 270.14.11/2430 - Release Date: 10/12/09= 04:01:00 =20 --0-1695305711-1255361879=:24289 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Ok Graham thanks for the info.
 
If it was on the same frquency that was probably Dennis and me. We've= been on for abt an hour ...hee. Well I can only conclude it is ADSL becau= se it is just raising the noise floor it is very subtle not really id= entifiable like say TV LTB, it's a mush. Frame ants help a bit but not as= sensitive at the LW by a mile. I use everything SDR software to niose bla= nk and is filtering down to 200hz and Xtal filters on my Kenwood TS69= 0s which has all the filters.  Its very depressing. I took my DC= rx around to Chris XIZ abt 6miles away and I could hear you on RTTY= the other day a smashing signal. I have a similar ant set up I have a hig= her ASL and I am in open fields about 1/2 to a mile from the rest of= humanity but still have noise....dohh!!!
 
Any way gl Graham and thanks for the reports. Things will be picking= up now with the season change so hope to hear you for a twoway on 50= 0kc/s soon.
 
73 petefmt
 
--- On Mon, 12/10/09, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:

From: Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>Subject: Re: LF: MOFMT
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Mond= ay, 12 October, 2009, 3:36 PM

Ok Peter
 
Should of given you a cal then but= was using the  ft897  at the  time , with no  tx on= 500 , good signal at the time , odd  for mid  day ? some = cw on at the moment 1530 bst , but  quite  low .. may be the sa= me tx ... noise level on the  rx is showing s8 to  s9 all day ..= .. across the  full band, interestingly  the  dsp noise red= uction in the ft897
actually  helps ..  must be the=   right kind of noise ...
 
As for the  rx .. well in a direct= test , swopping from the  ft897 and the  ra1778m , the  ft= 897 was  giving a better  recovery of the  signal ..= which is a bit disconcerting .. may be the  wrong type of noise for= the 1778 xtal filters (1.4 mhz and do tend to  ring a bit if  p= inged) , but iv'e had a few replies lately  where I could not = resolve the  other station, I think mainly  due to  the&nb= sp; high level of  noise a the  qth
 
73 Graham
 
 

From: M0FMT
Sent: Monday, October 12, 2009 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: LF: MOFMT

Thanks Graham
 
Not a beacon but a call, computer generated. Locally we try to have= a qso weekdays at around 11:45 or at some time over the lunch hour and ag= ain later around 4:00 it is a very loose sched with M0JXM Dennis and= rarely M0KHW.Ken.  Rog GW3UEP listens some times whch is remarkable&= nbsp;and reports by e-mail because I can't hear him its my RX or loca= tion (adsl noise?) that is poor but we should be reciprical.
 
FYI the current rig is an xtal controlled GW3UEP (ala UK500kHZ= group) this week run off a laptop PSU very approx 35 watts output to a lw= up 12m - 40m lng. Tnx fer rprt, meanwhile back to the RX with a big hamme= r.
 
73 petefmt

--- On Mon, 12/10/09, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>= ; wrote:

From: Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>Subject: LF: MOFMT
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Monday,= 12 October, 2009, 12:34 PM

M0FMT ,Good   569 from the = ; 35  ft  vertical (with atu ) ft897-d speaker at 1200 = ; bst to  day , normal speed  cw , beacon or  live cq call=  ?
 
Graham
 
G0NBD  /. io83lk
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