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Content preview: Hello Luis, My take on Ebnaut is it's undoubtedly a superb medium for low signal level transmission and reception, but until someone makes it available as single package that installs itself like WSJT-X or OPERA it will remain a very niche piece of software used pretty much solely by "geeks" who enjoy the challenge of grappling with getting it all working. I hope this doesn't sound offensive to others, I am just telling it as it is from my point of view. I'd love to try it but not being particularly computer savvy, and having battled Linux on several occasions and given up with its obtuse structure and commands, I will probably have to sit back in awe of those who have mastered it and got the amazing results Ebnaut has shown itself capable of. 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I hope this doesn't sound offensive to others, I am just telling it as it is from my point of view. I'd love to try it but not being particularly computer savvy, and having battled Linux on several occasions and given up with its obtuse structure and commands, I will probably have to sit back in awe of those who have mastered it and got the amazing results Ebnaut has shown itself capable of. Kudos to Paul, and those utilising his tools on LF and VLF I'd love to know something of his background and job, should he wish to share, he's obviously an immensely talented and driven gentleman! Tuesday, March 20, 2018, 9:08:59 AM, you wrote: > > > > Hi Domenico, LF > > > > I agree with you that EbNaut is the way to go for DX in LF. And > QSOs can be made using short symbol durations at least equal to a long QRSS mode > > Would be interesting if you recall the modes and time windows > involved in that QSOs that took place in LF > > > > But (at least muy experience, for a dummy and NON Lynux user) the > different software packages needed and the lack of clear descriptions on how to > > setup all the switches is a BIG problem and scares most OMs. The > reward is to gain a LOT of dBs using the same station setup. So it really worths the effort > > > >>> Of course, i'm also at disposal to put on air a small EbNaut signal on LF from my locator JN80nu > > > > Please do it. Would be very important to get your EbNaut > transmissions in LF as a reference. Specially to check if one can do it with an stable receiver > > but not GPSDO disciplined. This last step is complicated for many > receivers and not easy for many OMs. I’m using Perseus SDR which needs a GPSDO at > > 88MHz, but the existing TCXO looks very stable and think would work > just determining the QRG shift and compensating for that > > > >>>I believe that using EbNaut on LF (i.e. dealing with more robust signals than VLF) can be a very good training for acquiring the skill necessary to use EbNaut on VLF. > > Absolutely agree ! J > > > > 73 de Luis > > EA5DOM -- Best regards, Chris mailto:dead.fets@gmail.com