Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mb12.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mb12.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.32]) by air-mc02.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMC023-a8d54d4c3419240; Fri, 04 Feb 2011 12:15:05 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mb12.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 1E1643800008C; Fri, 4 Feb 2011 12:15:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PlPEY-000598-6i for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 04 Feb 2011 17:14:10 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PlPEX-00058z-DR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 04 Feb 2011 17:14:09 +0000 Received: from nm12-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com ([98.139.91.242]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PlPEU-0000uQ-Tp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 04 Feb 2011 17:14:09 +0000 Received: from [98.139.91.68] by nm12.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Feb 2011 17:13:59 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.34] by tm8.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Feb 2011 17:13:59 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1034.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 04 Feb 2011 17:13:59 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 883844.54796.bm@omp1034.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 65651 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Feb 2011 17:13:59 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1296839639; bh=dNv/oFhWCjYwPnG3+7IgiRG0zggmuDNMLX2fMc3uemo=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=sj4sbIsnRH+Sj0I94V7f6pgGse0GTHDRQaOuv/2rxzfJ7MNEkMXitlDUBV+00c3tMrlHYY6NTK4DBTXg+YEfVfN0w+DbwmUy5t4cgStm1iAZ7Tgj2fWycK1/oNPxzAK0L3U8++wcz3Ze+gAHx1ZPZNEaHEvmO5BDEJEwK9sInf4= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=RQSEz6HkxVfGyEay7B2wfJFOR+f+0JjpR3wrjN0C5dHH64HkezOmVtQcWr3vBGe+sVkRwFZcsmPSa99VEtKEWLMl3xowPn0L5XW0cd46bTb71+n1zIqdUweSs5NSKwSA/7O0T/GjtaT8YhoANKAmk8LS9qBfKeMUoG67RP/gOUw=; Message-ID: <216317.65413.qm@web111914.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: KuXzTqwVM1nUr2FjpA1j0uZGuUpZHKhOGUzbM_OYNiA1VBj hAhprwzPanmgPk6an139SGlRnoijF81rIrqC3eVBOYpEaqlsN5P_g8_p.qXO OX0bXtoOIeSS5nA9mQEZZowTAOLNbRV424Ab.Azz7pjAWOtBq_QyXFb4HEeD bR_Q_YBu.ybxefsWyGj8oOWgkTUWEEjAW_tEya6yiTUgeKsGC3YpfivC71oL q.8cS2yIjk9TUMZbNJKYgv_uttP3ZkwW6RycNVJXG40xajvwFpVc8_66v2MT CGE9I3cJ6UiiVg7F0nMVgHpaSLkpB2eVJXqrGw9FCIt2wU7ZB3LiyYc2M Received: from [151.99.187.181] by web111914.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 04 Feb 2011 09:13:58 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 References: <4D4C25A5.4080509@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <201272.95687.qm@web111908.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Date: Fri, 4 Feb 2011 09:13:58 -0800 (PST) From: Daniele Tincani To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <201272.95687.qm@web111908.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: VLF: DK7FC's 10th VLF kite experiment Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1993681629-1296839638=:65413" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_YAHOO_RCVD,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m012.2 ; domain : yahoo.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60204d4c3415556f X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 --0-1993681629-1296839638=:65413 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Good look?!? I intended to wish good luck to everyone involved of course :-) D. ________________________________ From: Daniele Tincani To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Fri, February 4, 2011 5:47:45 PM Subject: Re: VLF: DK7FC's 10th VLF kite experiment Hello Stefan, VLF weather forecast are promising, it is expected a sunny and nicely warm sun= day. I=20 think I will be able to carry out my /p recording from hills around here= =20 finally. I plan to record about 2 hours from three different antennas (so about 35= =20 minutes per antenna). It would be great to have your signal as a test sign= al to=20 compare=A0performances. I will have only a small digital recorder with me (no PC or Internet) so= I will=20 see my "captures" only after post-processing at home. Good look for everyone involved :-) Best regards Daniele ________________________________ From: Stefan Sch=E4fer To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: Paul ; Renato Romero ; Bern= d=20 Grupe ; Matthias Kirschenstein=20 Sent: Fri, February 4, 2011 5:13:25 PM Subject: VLF: DK7FC's 10th VLF kite experiment Dear LF/VLF group and other interested listeners/watchers, After a break of 2 months i will do my next VLF kite experiment on sunday,= 6th=20 februrary 2011. I've got the permission to fly a 300m kite vertical antena= in=20 daylight. My plan is to start early in the morning, coming on air at about= 7=20 UTC.=20 The wind forecast tells that the wind will be above 18 km/h (3 bft) but wi= ll=20 decrease in the afternoon. This is a job for my smaller kite (3.6 m^2). Ma= ybe i=20 have to change to 8.1m^2 in the afternoon. Such a kite experiment is always very exciting and a little chaotic too.= So i=20 cannot tell a too detailed and strict TX plan. The antenna consits out of= =A0 2=20 pieces, a 200m and a 100m part. The 200m part is the first that is lifted.= =20 Usually i want to serve 3 VLF bands: 33km, 46km and 58km. The antenna is= only=20 resonatable at 46km / 6470 Hz if the 200m piece is connected. Thus i start= ed on=20 46km in the last experiment. But due to the necessity to become QRV on 33k= m /=20 8970 Hz as early as possible to make a TA contact i want to start on 8970= Hz on=20 sunday, maybe transmitting at 200m while rolling out the second 100m part.= =20 Anyway, if possible it's better to watch on all the 3 bands simultaneously= , like=20 4X1RF, TF3HZ, KL7UK, DK7FC and others do it :-) But usually you'll be info= rmed=20 here by the group what currently goes on. My VLF grabber in 40.0 km distan= ce=20 will display the activity. 8970 Hz can be viewed at=20 http://www.iup.uni-heidelberg.de/schaefer_vlf/DK7FC_VLF_Grabber.html and= =20 6470/5170 Hz at=20 http://www.iup.uni-heidelberg.de/schaefer_vlf/DK7FC_VLF_Grabber2.html If the wind, interest and my personal energy holds on i will be transmitti= ng=20 from 7...16:30 UTC. TX power will be 550 W. Depending on the soil humidity= this=20 will result in up to 100 mW ERP on 8970 Hz. As usual, my TX location ist= =20 JN49IS36VH If all works well i'll try to reach the following goals: -Transmitting a constant carrier for about 1 hour (GPS locked) at 8970.000= 00 Hz=20 at full power (it's always full power! ;-) ), hoping to leave a strong tra= ce at=20 several curious VLF receivers :-) -Transmitting a message in DFCW-600 at 8970 Hz to give a better ID and to= keep=20 the activity interesting -Trying a DFCW-3 crossband QSO with DF6NM on 9/137 kHz at 179 km=20 (http://no.nonsense.ee/qthmap/?qth=3DJN59NK&from=3DJN49IS36VH) -Transmitting a short message in DFCW-10 for well equipped stations in a= range=20 of some 100km. Just to check how far DFCW-10 can be detected -Maybe trying a CW QSO with DF8ZR in 16km distance (who strongly improved= his=20 station) -QSY to 5170 Hz / 58km or maybe 6470 Hz, depending on the feedback and the= =20 diurnal noise situation -Transmitting a carrier and some shifted DFCW-600 letters to give better= ID. -Spontaneous tests depending on request, wind situation, QRN and personal= energy -Reaching the TF3HZ VLF grabber in DFCW-600=20 (http://simnet.is/halldorgudmunds/TF3HZ_VLFgrabber/ ). Halldor has put a= lot of=20 energy in this project, mni TNX!=20 -Reaching other grabbers like 4X1RF and maybe KL7UK (the limit of my optim= ism!:=20 http://no.nonsense.ee/qthmap/?qth=3DJN49IS36VH&from=3DBP51IP ) or even a= university=20 in India(?). Generally reaching as many stations as possible. EI8JK, many= =20 stations in UK (G3XBM, M0BMU, or even GM4SLV?), some new of them (G3XDV,= =20 G3KEV?), maybe a first contact in Russia,RA3YO? And norway, LA3EQ? I've he= ard=20 from the yahoo VLF group about stations in Romania/YO.=20 -Hoping to give VLF interested OMs a chance to check, compare and improve= =20 different antenna systems. -Maybe convincing a station in Greenland/OX to put some interest on the ba= nds=20 below 1 MHz? :-) -Making a fascinating day for all involved. -Improving the station by reducing the ground losses of the system. Reachi= ng 1.4=20 A / 15 kV rms at 8970 Hz As far as i can see there is no chance for a DX distance record as long as= i=20 don't reach so far unknown stations or stations in USA/Canada or India. Bu= t the=20 main aspect is not the distance record, although interesting and fascinati= ng and=20 exciting, but rather having fun, active "Dreaming" and making some interes= ting=20 observations :-) So, hope for a good activity and good wind conds. Any reports are highly= =20 appreciated. RX stations are THE important part of such an activity! Thank= s in=20 advance! 73, Stefan/DK7FC PS: Some grabber links: http://qsl.net/4x1rf/vlf/vlfgrabber.htm http://www.mydarc.de/df6nm/vlf/vlfgrabber.htm http://www.iup.uni-heidelberg.de/schaefer_vlf/DK7FC_VLF_Grabber.html=A0=A0= (8970 Hz=20 in 40 km distance) http://www.iup.uni-heidelberg.de/schaefer_vlf/DK7FC_VLF_Grabber2.html (647= 0 and=20 5170 Hz in 40 km distance) http://simnet.is/halldorgudmunds/ http://kl7uk.com/VLFAlaska.html There are many others available. The above are running 24/7. Sorry if ther= e was=20 someting forgotten. =20 --0-1993681629-1296839638=:65413 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Good look?!?
I intended to wish good luck to everyone involved of course :-)
D.
=
From: Daniele Tincani <= danieletincani@yahoo.com>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Fri, February 4, 2011 5:47:45 PM
Subject: Re: VLF: DK7FC's 10th VLF kite= experiment

Hello Stefan, VLF
 
weather forecast are promising, it is expected a sunny and nicely war= m sunday. I think I will be able to carry out my /p recording from hills= around here finally.
I plan to record about 2 hours from three different antennas (so abou= t 35 minutes per antenna). It would be great to have your signal as a test= signal to compare performances.
I will have only a small digital recorder with me (no PC or Internet)= so I will see my "captures" only after post-processing at home.
Good look for everyone involved :-)
 
Best regards
Daniele
=
From: Stefan Sch=E4fer <= ;schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de>
Cc: Paul <paul@abelian.netcom.co.uk>; Renato= Romero <contact@vlf.it>; Bernd Grupe <bernd.grupe@t-online.de>= ;; Matthias Kirschenstein <matthias.kirschenstein@googlemail.com>Sent: Fri, February 4, 20= 11 5:13:25 PM
Subject:= VLF: DK7FC's 10th VLF kite experiment

Dear LF/VLF group and= other interested listeners/watchers,

After a break of 2 months i= will do my next VLF kite experiment on sunday, 6th februrary 2011.= I've got the permission to fly a 300m kite vertical antena in daylight.= My plan is to start early in the morning, coming on air at about 7 UTC= .

The wind forecast tells that the wind will be above 18 km/h (3 bft) but will decre= ase in the afternoon. This is a job for my smaller kite (3.6 m^2). Maybe= i have to change to 8.1m^2 in the afternoon.

Such a kite experimen= t is always very exciting and a little chaotic too. So i cannot tell a too= detailed and strict TX plan. The antenna consits out of  2 pieces,= a 200m and a 100m part. The 200m part is the first that is lifted. Usuall= y i want to serve 3 VLF bands: 33km, 46km and 58km. The antenna is only re= sonatable at 46km / 6470 Hz if the 200m piece is connected. Thus i started= on 46km in the last experiment. But due to the necessity to become QRV on= 33km / 8970 Hz as early as possible to make a TA contact i want to start= on 8970 Hz on sunday, maybe transmitting at 200m while rolling out the se= cond 100m part. Anyway, if possible it's better to watch on all the 3 band= s simultaneously, like 4X1RF, TF3HZ, KL7UK, DK7FC and others do it :-) But= usually you'll be informed here by the group what currently goes on. My VLF grabb= er in 40.0 km distance will display the activity. 8970 Hz can be viewed at= http://www.iup.uni-heidelberg.de/schaefer_vlf/DK7FC_VLF_Grabber.html and= 6470/5170 Hz at http://www.iup.uni-heidelberg.de/schaefer_vlf/DK7FC_VLF_G= rabber2.html

If the wind, interest and my personal energy holds on= i will be transmitting from 7...16:30 UTC. TX power will be 550 W.= Depending on the soil humidity this will result in up to 100 mW ERP on 89= 70 Hz. As usual, my TX location ist JN49IS36VH

= If all works well i'll try to reach the following goals:
-Transm= itting a constant carrier for about 1 hour (GPS locked) at 8970.00000 Hz= at full power (it's always full power! ;-) ), hoping to leave a strong tr= ace at several curious VLF receivers :-)
-Transmitting a message in DFC= W-600 at 8970 Hz to give a better ID and to keep the activity interesting
-Trying a DFC= W-3 crossband QSO with DF6NM on 9/137 kHz at 179 km (http://no.nonsense.ee= /qthmap/?qth=3DJN59NK&from=3DJN49IS36VH)
-Transmitting a short mess= age in DFCW-10 for well equipped stations in a range of some 100km. Just= to check how far DFCW-10 can be detected
-Maybe trying a CW QSO with= DF8ZR in 16km distance (who strongly improved his station)
-QSY to 517= 0 Hz / 58km or maybe 6470 Hz, depending on the feedback and the diurnal no= ise situation
-Transmitting a carrier and some shifted DFCW-600 letters= to give better ID.
-Spontaneous tests depending on request, wind situa= tion, QRN and personal energy

-Reaching the TF3HZ VLF grabber in= DFCW-600 (http://simnet.is/halldorgudmunds/TF3HZ_VLFgrabber/ ). Halld= or has put a lot of energy in this project, mni TNX!
-Reaching other= grabbers like 4X1RF and maybe KL7UK (the limit of my optimism!: http://no.nonsense.ee/qthmap/?qth=3DJN49IS36VH&from=3DBP51IP ) or eve= n a university in India(?). Generally reaching as many stations as possibl= e. EI8JK, many stations in UK (G3XBM, M0BMU, or even GM4SLV?), some new of= them (G3XDV, G3KEV?), maybe a first contact in Russia,RA3YO? And norway,= LA3EQ? I've heard from the yahoo VLF group about stations in Romania/YO.=
-Hoping to give VLF interested OMs a chance to check, compare and imp= rove different antenna systems.
-Maybe convincing a station in Greenlan= d/OX to put some interest on the bands below 1 MHz? :-)
-Making a fasci= nating day for all involved.
-Improving the station by reducing the gro= und losses of the system. Reaching 1.4 A / 15 kV rms at 8970 Hz

As= far as i can see there is no chance for a DX distance record as long as= i don't reach so far unknown stations or stations in USA/Canada or India.= But the main aspect is not the distance record, although interesting and= fascinating and exciting, but rather having fun, active "Dreaming" and making some intere= sting observations :-)

So, hope for a good activity and good wind= conds. Any reports are highly appreciated. RX stations are THE important= part of such an activity! Thanks in advance!

73, Stefan/DK7FC
<= BR>PS: Some grabber links:
http://qsl.net/4x1rf/vlf/vlfgrabber.htm
h= ttp://www.mydarc.de/df6nm/vlf/vlfgrabber.htm
http://www.iup.uni-heidelberg.de= /schaefer_vlf/DK7FC_VLF_Grabber.html   (8970 Hz in 40 km dis= tance)
http://www.iup.uni-heidelberg.de/schaefer_vlf/DK7FC_VLF_Grabber2.html= (6470 and 5170 Hz in 40 km distance)
http://simnet.is/halldorgudmunds/
http://kl7uk.com/VLFAla= ska.html
There are many others available. The above are running 24/7.= Sorry if there was someting forgotten.


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