Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (rly-dd05.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.152]) by air-dd03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD033-b774a9a62f71b6; Sun, 30 Aug 2009 07:31:10 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD051-b774a9a62f71b6; Sun, 30 Aug 2009 07:31:04 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1MhibH-00069V-2E for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 30 Aug 2009 12:29:35 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1MhibG-00069M-H9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 30 Aug 2009 12:29:34 +0100 Received: from [193.252.22.190] (helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MhiaP-0003MN-Hz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 30 Aug 2009 12:28:42 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3632.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 5DC347000082 for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2009 13:29:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3632.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 514147000086 for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2009 13:29:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.109.40.206]) by mwinf3632.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id B67277000082 for ; Sun, 30 Aug 2009 13:29:17 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20090830112917747.B67277000082@mwinf3632.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <211F6B38DA2544AD84B814000D47EDF6@AGB> From: "Graham" To: Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 12:29:23 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8064.206 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8064.206 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Fw: Quite please , beacons running close to 504 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0061_01CA296D.81EC46C0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0061_01CA296D.81EC46C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Graham=20 Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 12:08 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Quite please , beacons running close to 504=20 Just WSPR hihi=20 Nice signal from Jim 504 - and Gus 504 + just the other side of 504= Gary also running with a good signal from his 'new' hf to mf convertor ...all showing >>> http://www.wireless.org= .uk/grab/ The big spread of wspr beacon frequency's is / will make wspr mo= nitoring a problem this winter and beyond as the separation falls = out side the bandwidth of the software, the uk frequency, just unde= r 504 was to make use of the quite window close to the 504 carrier'= s noise band , just inside the top of the uk 501>504 allocation. 'We' could re define the 'UK' dial set frequency higher to allow= reception over 504 , but this dose bring with it a strong carrier= in the pass band and the side band noise from 504 .. and will also= increase the possibility of collisions within the uk allocation= should activity increase=20 Any ideas ? Graham .=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0061_01CA296D.81EC46C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 

From: Graham
Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 12:08 AM
Subject: Quite please , beacons running close to 504=20

Just   WSPR  hihi
 
Nice signal from Jim 504 - and Gus 50= 4 + just=20 the  other side of 504  Gary also  running with a good&= nbsp;=20 signal from his
'new' hf to  mf  convertor= ...all showing=20 >>>  http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/
 
The  big  spread of = wspr beacon=20 frequency's is / will  make  wspr  monitoring a problem= =20 this  winter and beyond as the  separation falls  out= side the=20 bandwidth of the  software, the  uk frequency, just under 50= 4 was=20 to  make use of the  quite window close to the 504 =20 carrier's  noise band , just inside the  top of the uk 501&g= t;504=20 allocation.
 
'We' could  re define the = 'UK' dial set=20 frequency  higher to  allow  reception over 504 , but= this =20 dose bring with it a strong carrier in the  pass band and the&nbs= p; side=20 band noise from 504 .. and  will also increase the  possibil= ity=20 of  collisions  within the  uk allocation should = =20 activity  increase
 
Any  ideas ?
 
Graham .
 
 
 
 
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