Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mk07.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mk07.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.97.139]) by air-me08.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME084-8bbf4d59591c28b; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 11:32:28 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mk07.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 8A0DF38000132; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 11:32:26 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Pp1Ky-0001eN-OU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 16:31:44 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Pp1Ky-0001eA-3T for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 16:31:44 +0000 Received: from nm1-vm0.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.183.224]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Pp1Ky-0005Wq-1k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 16:31:44 +0000 Received: from [217.146.183.180] by nm1.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Feb 2011 16:31:38 -0000 Received: from [217.146.183.42] by tm11.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Feb 2011 16:31:38 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1027.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Feb 2011 16:31:38 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 508021.60434.bm@omp1027.mail.ukl.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 10298 invoked by uid 60001); 14 Feb 2011 16:31:38 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1297701098; bh=qa0hb6kcew+i/OIMGCowWjwmlYbezZczEmeUrG8YYPU=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=zPZpaTtyw8y7nNudfamGyB/bfEcU3fcmTcs7i979Bossz9RN+4tfKTgmXCvTpQMY6DVLwjW1Gc6w7sUGZDPOOTo6O+YYiC5nw0Hyuh0gYjnUdUM6nhPodcpza8lAhPDX1kphfXO1S3kNxXYIdo+LNZE/EG/dWzYrzymVoMS+zVU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=D5zAPn7wTSXmWZHk+QMLIb62U5+tkYkzwZySCkUxPPK04i+gFFhMnhnucKAUL+p5QAQkmegaafNdLzv1axT7GAN0Bz73TJq3Y1LGHGwnCBbLDFqOL/0r03RdnQlMIHjJen9Sqn55y027fzlz8xFk8ZvqHQluKXxWpfy8y32bTgA=; Message-ID: <202981.9384.qm@web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: p3WFc7AVM1mfrvgLqMDJduB1ijz8UOeCz7oEVvgaPOfPDwJ Whc9o7UOchpuDqHdKCALo_GcIRdBItoBvMjxYAmR.hD1rDcicM1pKzfZnlxC s_0tCDXrW8rf51aQnRDlDnK5XNJXjeMAA1.Ym01Radp1upUpbZOL_WQvxVbP gk87LoISbn1CHvA_EQYrDwsbd6DNN3eGpQLIV4xaTOKC6aa1XuB_4ttQt1q6 5zDmid6q_50pRAHR77Q9FuGsOpmcAbK5nHwvAAYmpWpRdnaf9K2D5x6OnPuh k8l7gIdcTOynEyzPZKpBnmOX3yfpGY2aluhSQrltxjNA- Received: from [86.156.201.240] by web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 14 Feb 2011 16:31:37 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.108.291010 References: <4D594B3A.17889.154E048@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com>, <453676.19291.qm@web28101.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <4D595528.6473.17BA97B@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 16:31:37 +0000 (GMT) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <4D595528.6473.17BA97B@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: G4AYT? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-471928360-1297701097=:9384" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m267.1 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d618b4d5959197835 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --0-471928360-1297701097=:9384 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable OK Mike thank you for the info. I am using a TS690s Internal preamp on. No external amp. Best results were= with=20 the TX tuner=A0600mm diam resonant transformer from a LW antenna=A0up13m= 35m long=20 sloping down to about 5m (slope temporary). Up wire touches only at tuner= OP and=20 two through the wall thin PTFE washers and at the top of antenna up lead= using a=20 deep ribbed glass insulator 8inches long far end plastic dogbone. All comments welcome. Ok on distance also I have long held the=A0view that during day time terra= in has a=20 part to play. However I need to address the RX side of things here its not good on 136= or=20 500kc/s. Once again thanks for the info. 73 es GL petefmt=20 ________________________________ From: Mike Dennison To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Mon, 14 February, 2011 16:15:36 Subject: Re: LF: G4AYT? > There you are Chris a FB signal..... Really like to know Mike's setup > because=A0I am not getting anything like as good a signal as he is. > > Just going out to kick my RX in to the field opposite, > =A073 es GL petefmt Receive set-up: IC706 plus pre-amp; transmit antenna (inverted-L, 12m vertical, 5x13m horizontal, tuned against earth stakes). I am also some 20% closer to Chris than you are, which helps. MIke =3D=3D=3D=3D =20 --0-471928360-1297701097=:9384 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
OK Mike thank you for the info.
 
I am using a TS690s Internal preamp on. No external amp. Best results= were with the TX tuner 600mm diam resonant transformer from a LW ant= enna up13m 35m long sloping down to about 5m (slope temporary). Up wi= re touches only at tuner OP and two through the wall thin PTFE washers and= at the top of antenna up lead using a deep ribbed glass insulator 8inches= long far end plastic dogbone.
All comments welcome.
 
Ok on distance also I have long held the view that during day ti= me terrain has a part to play.
 
However I need to address the RX side of things here its not good on= 136 or 500kc/s.
 
Once again thanks for the info.
 
73 es GL petefmt=20


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From: Mike Dennison <mi= ke.dennison@ntlworld.com>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Mon, 14 February, 2011 16:15:36
Subject: Re: LF: G4AYT?

&g= t; There you are Chris a FB signal..... Really like to know Mike's setup> because I am not getting anything like as good a signal as he= is.
>
> Just going out to kick my RX in to the field opposite= ,
>  73 es GL petefmt

Receive set-up: IC706 plus pre-amp= ; transmit antenna (inverted-L, 12m
vertical, 5x13m horizontal, tuned= against earth stakes).

I am also some 20% closer to Chris than you= are, which helps.

MIke
=3D=3D=3D=3D



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