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That was SM6BHZ on 508kHz LSB


Quoting M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>:

> Hi Graham Geri and all
> =A0
> Warren has seen SSB first hand on the MF QRG and we have this side  
> also.There was an SM station (call sign forgotten?) in the early  
> days of 500=A0that added an SSB anouncement on his beacon and=A0it  
> worked well.
> =A0
> To my spec. :- "One SSB channel at the high edge of the band only  
> used during   daylight hours no DXing!" add " Use VOX, no  
> monologuing allowed"=A0to be a laissez faire operation no band plan,  
> but fair play!.73 es GL es HNY Pete M0FMT IO91UX
>
>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> Sent: Wednesday, 2 January 2013, 20:48
>> Subject: Re: LF: 477   A local  SSB  chat  band  ?
>>
>>
>>
>> Geri
>>
>> 800 Hz=A0 B/W ...=A0 May=A0 be this=A0 is=A0 something=A0
> 'Wolf' can=A0 code=A0 for=A0 you=A0 ? a=A0 b/w =A0 compression
> / expansion=A0 module in SL =A0, to=A0 limit the=A0 tx b/w=A0
> to=A0 800=A0 Hz must=A0 be=A0 possible to=A0 divide=A0
> by=A0 3=A0 and=A0 mult=A0 by=A0 3=A0 with a=A0 linear
> shift=A0 as=A0 well ?
>>
>> G..
>>
>>
>> From: Holger 'Geri', DK8KW - DI2BO - W1KW
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 8:36 PM
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> Subject: Re: LF: 477 A local SSB chat band ?
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>> =A0
>> I kind of like the idea of an SSB channel. I just
> pulled out the conditions of my first secial license for 160m from  
> 1973 or 1974.
> That said 1815 to 1835 kHz with 10 Watts in CW, additionally one SSB  
> channel for
> 1832 to 1835 kHz, so why not trying this on 630m, too? Here in Germany we=
 are
> currently limited to 800 Hz bandwidt but I am sure we can sork  
> towards a special
> license under certain conditions such as daylight operation only=A0.. sou=
nds
> good to me!
>> =A0
>> Vy 73
>> =A0
>> Geri, DK8KW
>> =A0
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Graham
>>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 8:58  PM
>>> Subject: Re: LF: 477 A local SSB chat  band ?
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Pete
>>>
>>> Its=A0 quite=A0 obvious that=A0 the=A0 allocation=A0  is=A0 =A0quite=A0=
 able=A0 to=A0  
>>> support=A0  normal=A0=A0 armature=A0 activity , and=A0 why=A0 not=A0 ? =
 its no=A0  
>>> longer a experimental=A0 allocation , its just the=A0  same=A0 as=A0=A0=
 10=A0  
>>> or top=A0 band , un expected=A0  results=A0 today though !=A0 ssb=A0 so=
unds=A0  
>>> odd=A0 ,  may=A0 be=A0 as=A0 the=A0 path is=A0 stable ,=A0=A0 sstv  ?=
=A0 must=A0 be a=A0  
>>> narrow=A0 mode=A0 , and the=A0  'new'=A0 digital=A0 voice=A0 is 2KHz=A0=
 , but  
>>> that=A0  requires=A0 a=A0 linear=A0 Tx=A0 path=A0
>>>
>>> As=A0 for=A0 the=A0 band edge
>>>
>>> =A0I'm =A0straining=A0 to=A0 find=A0 a=A0  engineering=A0=A0 reason=A0 =
, that=A0 wspr=A0  
>>> and=A0  qrss=A0 has=A0 decided to=A0 run mid band ?=A0Im sure=A0 users =
 had a=A0  
>>> reasonable discussion=A0 at the=A0 introduction=A0 of  the=A0 band , to=
=A0  
>>> place the=A0 modes=A0 at the=A0 edges  ,=A0with=A0 live=A0 cw a the=A0 =
lower=A0  
>>> portion  ?=A0=A0its well=A0 know=A0 that=A0 these=A0 long=A0  carrier=
=A0 modes=A0  
>>> cause=A0 disruption=A0 to=A0 other=A0  band=A0 users and=A0 are=A0 well=
=A0 placed=A0  
>>> at  the=A0=A0band=A0 edges =A0, 'vanity=A0 beacons'=A0 is a  term=A0I h=
ave=A0  
>>> seen=A0 noted=A0 in referral, as occupancy=A0  increases , by users=A0 =
 
>>> not=A0 linked or=A0 even=A0 aware=A0  of=A0 =A0discussions=A0=A0 taking=
 place on  
>>> these=A0 groups ,  i'm sure there=A0 will=A0 be=A0=A0problems=A0 leadin=
g=A0  to=A0  
>>> the=A0 introduction=A0 of =A0band plan's=A0 , for=A0  some=A0 the=A0 pl=
ans=A0  
>>> form=A0 part of the=A0 licence=A0  conditions ..
>>>
>>> Is Opera=A0 a vanity=A0 system=A0? , actually=A0 no, it=A0  compliments=
=A0=A0  
>>> ros-=A0 data=A0 mode in that=A0 the=A0 ave  s/n=A0=A0 readings=A0 can b=
e used  
>>> to=A0 determine=A0 if=A0  a=A0 path=A0 will=A0 support=A0 the=A0 data=
=A0 mode ,   
>>> each=A0 having=A0 the=A0 same=A0=A0 averaging=A0 s/n=A0  reading=A0 tak=
en along  
>>> the=A0 time=A0 line =A0,
>>>
>>> 73 -G..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: M0FMT
>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2013 6:21 PM
>>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>> Subject: Re: LF: 477 A local SSB chat band ?
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi all
>>> =A0
>>> One SSB channel at the high edge of the band only used during   
>>> daylight hours no DXing!
>>>
>>>
>>> 73 es GL es HNY=A0Pete M0FMT IO91UX
>>>
>>>
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
>>>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 2 January  2013, 16:13
>>>> Subject: LF:  477 A local SSB chat band ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Quite=A0 intriguing=A0 propagation=A0 on this=A0  'new'=A0 band
>>>>
>>>> From=A0 some=A0 unexpected=A0 early=A0 600 mile=A0  +=A0=A0 Opera=A0 d=
ecodes=A0  
>>>> last=A0 night=A0 , to=A0  several=A0=A0 wspr=A0=A0 TA=A0 decodes ,=A0 =
[G8's=A0  again  
>>>> ..]=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0to=A0=A0 today's=A0=A0  test=A0 with=A0 Gary=A0 usin=
g=A0=A0 USB-SSB=A0 voice ,
>>>>
>>>> Where=A0 as=A0at=A0=A0=A01300z=A0 =A0we=A0  had=A0 5/9=A0 signals each=
=A0 way=A0 as=A0   
>>>> expected=A0=A0 over 25 miles=A0 ,=A0 GI3PDN=A0=A0  Ray=A0 , called=A0 =
on CW ,  
>>>> to=A0=A0 give=A0 a=A0 report  of=A0 5/9 across=A0 the=A0 Irish=A0=A0 S=
ea=A0 , some=A0   
>>>> 100=A0 miles=A0 for=A0 our=A0 two=A0 signals , his=A0 CW  also=A0 in t=
he=A0  
>>>> 5/9/9=A0 region, one=A0 wonders=A0  how=A0 far=A0 inland=A0 the signal=
s=A0  
>>>> travelled=A0 ?
>>>>
>>>> After a=A0 short 3=A0 way=A0 qso,=A0 we closed the=A0  test=A0 round 1=
330z=A0  
>>>> ,=A0 may=A0 not=A0of been  =A0quite=A0 as=A0 sociable=A0 after=A0 dark=
=A0 , but=A0   
>>>> with a=A0 small=A0 Ae=A0 , 40 x 70=A0 ft=A0 iv L=A0  and=A0=A0 35=A0 f=
t=A0 Top load=A0  
>>>> vert=A0 , 50=A0  watts=A0 pep=A0 , results=A0 defiantly=A0=A0 superior=
=A0  to=A0  
>>>> say=A0 160=A0 mtrs=A0 using=A0 the=A0 same=A0  Ae's
>>>>
>>>> 73 -G
>>>> G0NBD
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>