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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hello Stefan, MF Previously I did quite a lot of listening between 472 and 479 kHz due to the new (and final) allocation proposal. Back then my own conclusion was that 472.5 kHz +/- would be the ideal "default" CW-frequency as seen from here i OH since it is the only slot offering NDB-QRM free reception in normal CW-filter bandwidths. [...] Content analysis details: (-0.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [213.250.81.203 listed in list.dnswl.org] X-Scan-Signature: 4f449c45f7b1894a9195a328eedaeb30 Subject: Re: LF: MF, center of activity QRG Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR, NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:484388736:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60554ff2d5c42dd2 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Hello Stefan, MF Previously I did quite a lot of listening between 472 and 479 kHz due =20 to the new (and final) allocation proposal. Back then my own =20 conclusion was that 472.5 kHz +/- would be the ideal "default" =20 CW-frequency as seen from here i OH since it is the only slot offering =20 NDB-QRM free reception in normal CW-filter bandwidths. Daytime the whole band is empty up here, but during the "MF season", =20 as propagation kicks in from the east it starts filling up pretty =20 quickly with NDB's. This is no vote for a bandplan, just saying that what is going on at =20 the moment seems to work well for now, as seen from here. BR Paul-Henrik, OH1LSQ Quoting Stefan Sch=C3=A4fer : > Hi Edgar, MF > > I've often seen activity on 472.6 kHz on the DM4TR grabber. But why =20 > 472.6 and not 472.5 kHz? Sould be no problem for a 500 Hz CW filter =20 > but if people use a narrow filter, maybe 150 Hz BW, then someone =20 > could be missed. > > I would agree to a center frequency of activity of 472.5 kHz and =20 > intend to call there from now on as well. However i'm afraid that =20 > collisions may occurr, due to the weak signals and QRN and =20 > propagation effects... > > 73, Stefan/DK7FC > > > Am 03.07.2012 08:23, schrieb dl2hre@arcor.de: >> >> hallo Uwe, LF/MF >> >> DJ5BV Gerd is in JO30ki, i wkd him in normal cw 24.06. 472,6KHz >> >> 73 cul >> Edgar DL2HRE in JO51tq >> >> ----- Original Nachricht ---- >> Von: uwe-jannsen@kabelmail.de >> An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> Datum: 02.07.2012 15:03 >> Betreff: Re: LF: FW: DJ5BV... >> >> >>> Hi Dave, >>> >>> >> my RX is tuned to 472.5kHz 24hs. but Im not 24hs in the shack. >>> >>> last night I could hear DJ5BV too. he/she was 599 here in jo43sv. >>> >>> GL >>> Uwe/dj8wx >>> Von: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> Gesendet: 01.07.2012 22:22 >>> An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> Betreff: LF: FW: DJ5BV... >>> >>> This e-mail got bounced from the Yahoo Group, so I've sent it to the B= lack >>> Sheep reflector instead. >>> >>> Seems like I've been unsubscribed from Yahoo... >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Dave G3WCB. [mailto:ganymede444@btopenworld.com] >>> Sent: 01 July 2012 22:15 >>> To: rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk >>> Subject: DJ5BV... >>> >>> Dear MF, >>> >>> I just copied DJ5BV calling CQ on 472.63 kHz. RST 449, lots of QRN. >>> >>> Is this now the de-facto centre of CW activity on this band? >>> >>> 73, Dave G3WCB IO91RV, Nr Windsor, S.E. England. >>> > >