Return-Path: Received: from mtain-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.76]) by air-dd08.mail.aol.com (v127_r1.1) with ESMTP id MAILINDD081-860e4ba9d1bb21; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 04:47:55 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-da04.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 1103B380000A2; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 04:47:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NuMEB-0004k4-Ch for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 08:46:15 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NuMEA-0004jv-WB for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 08:46:14 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NuME8-0004Wd-AO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 08:46:14 +0000 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id D77127B8067 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 09:46:01 +0100 (CET) Received: from PC_van_Rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-106.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.106]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6645F3862 for ; Wed, 24 Mar 2010 09:46:01 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 09:46:01 +0100 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: References: <2a2c8.24f60f40.38d54e4e@aol.com> <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1B81@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> <4BA5CFAA.2030007@freenet.de> <56800827A5644E1BB3F320CB51E2300E@Black> <26E279AD762E44FB937A8A7DF8F934BC@Black> <8C7F2923D86B4517B1C156BA499E96E4@Black> <29746320.1346347.1269244849281.JavaMail.fmail@mwmweb078> <4BA7361F.1030702@abelian.org> <4BA7A586.8080307@abelian.org> <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1B87@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> <0A742B5B9F6A4E84A802D1F98B670E79@JimPC> <20100323130953.2BEFC31E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20100324084601.D6645F3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: DK7FC's 3rd VLF transmission Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d404c4ba9d1b86f12 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hello Roelof, thanks for the circuit diagram. It looks pretty simple. If I "read" the circuit diagram correct it is a buffer amplifier (the voltage gain maybe even less than 1, however due to the impedance transformation the power gain is huge). It seems a bit of overshoot to me to buy a perseus (just checked, they ask 850 Euro for it), so my first option would be to go to the PC soundcard. Do you (or others) have any experience with that ? 73, Rik ON7YD At 19:29 23/03/2010, you wrote: >Hello Rick, > >Michael Oexner has had good results with a mini-whip E-field probe I build >for him. >The circuit diagram is in the attachment. >The feedline is CAT5 network cable. > >Note that the RF-isolating transformers in the signal path are not correct. >I have used MCL TT 1-6 parts, rated for 0.004 - 300 MHz at the -3 dB >points. >The common mode chokes are not optimum, as I used the parts I had on hand. >Type 75 or 77 ferrite should be better. > >Michael used a PERSEUS SDR, which has a noise figure of about 25 dB at 9 >kHz. >This is due to the fact that there is also a RF-isolating transformer in >the signal path. > >It is amazing that with this not optimized set up it was possible to have >good reception over a 72 km path. >The actual capture area of the antenna is 30 x 40 mm single sided copper >clad PCB. > >There are quite a few people around with a PERSEUS SDR, who are probably >interested in receiving Stefan's signal. >So a simple antenna design might help. > >I have the parts for an optical link active E-field antenna, as suggested >by Stefan. >Due to other more pressing matters, I have not yet put them to good use. > >I hope this helps, > >Best regards, >Roelof, pa0rdt > > > >