Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (rly-ma07.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.51]) by air-ma05.mail.aol.com (v121_r5.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMA054-8bb4980ae03317; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:12:31 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma07.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA075-8bb4980ae03317; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:12:06 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LSFpF-0005cj-BU for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:11:49 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LSFpE-0005ca-VS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:11:48 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LSFpE-0001tF-5m for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:11:48 +0000 Received: from lurcher (lurcher.twatt.home [10.0.0.8]) by deerhound.twatt.home (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A8BD3B6A4 for ; Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:11:42 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2009 19:11:41 +0000 From: John P-G To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20090128191141.1a6b7107@lurcher> In-Reply-To: <00aa01c98173$8620d2d0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> References: <00aa01c98173$8620d2d0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.5.0 (GTK+ 2.14.4; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: wspr qrg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 On Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:09:12 -0000 "mal hamilton" wrote: > Can wspr operators pse specify the signal freq and not the DIAL freq. > Convention would therefore indicate that one would tune 1.5 khz > lower in USB mode. > Why? By specifying Dial frequency, which is set both on the TX/RX and in the software BY ALL INTERESTED PARTIES, one provides known 200Hz window, within which one can be confident all participants in a "WSPR network" will reside. Where, within this 200Hz window, can be selected by each transmitting station to avoid co-frequency operation with the other participants. What is gained by each station specifying their own actual effective RF carrier frequency individually? Station 1 sets dial frequency to 502.4 and audio to 1500Hz then his RF frequency is 503.500 Station 2 sets dial frequency to 502.4 and audio to 1520 then his RF frequncy is 503.520 What is gained by Station 1 announcing "WSPR beacon on 503.500" and Station 2 announcing "WSPR beacon on 503.520" Do you tune 1500Hz below Station 1's announced RF frequency or 1500Hz below station 2's announced RF frequency, 1520 below Station somewhere in between or just stick to what's sensible... and quote a single, universal Dial Frequency and be done with it. You seem intent on making this much harder than it needs to be, just out of devilment, presumably. If you don't like the mode - and that's fair enough, it's not for everyone, and it's not intended as the only way of exploring the RF spectrum, it's just ONE thing to do for interest and amusement - this is a HOBBY afer all - and you see no benefit in it then you have acres of space in which to operate the mode/modes that take your fancy, why try to specify how others must use a system, which operates perfectly well in the manner intended by its designer and those who wish to expore its usefulness. J