Return-Path: Received: from rly-md10.mx.aol.com (rly-md10.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.148]) by air-md01.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD013-92c497f778f341; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:07:42 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md10.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD104-92c497f778f341; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:07:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1LRv9X-0005Xg-Qc for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:07:23 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1LRv9X-0005XX-E1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:07:23 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1LRv9W-000336-9F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:07:23 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 862FA51C005; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:07:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6671C31E703; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:07:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AA3931E702; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:07:08 +0100 (CET) Received: by webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 822D159D7; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:07:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from 254.162-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (254.162-240-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [81.240.162.254]) by webmail4.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:07:08 +0100 Message-ID: <20090127220708.r1ra6t04fzcoc4o8@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:07:08 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, Klaus von der Heide References: <004f01c9809a$708b5c30$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920>, <497F3902.1070604@sighthound.demon.co.uk> <497F5976.5945.1B872C2@v.d.heide.on-line.de> In-Reply-To: <497F5976.5945.1B872C2@v.d.heide.on-line.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 81.240.162.254 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: PROPAGATION WSPR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Klaus, > On the other hand, WSPR has the advantage of automatic > recording. But that is not an advantage of the mode, it > simply is the lack of a corresponding simple program that > does the same with a QRSS signal. the automatic recording/reporting ability is clearly an advantage of WSPR in regard with propagation studies. And I agree that QRSS or DFCW would serve as well or even better if a similar automatic recording/reporting would be provided. But I am afraid that a "waterfall display to ASCII" conversion is not simple at all ;-) > Nevertheless, WSPR is not very near to the Shannon limit. > I spent nearly all my leisure time of the last year with > the design of a new digital ham radio QSO-mode HD43 that > comes as close as possible to the theoretical limit. > I will send a preprint on request. I am interested 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm