Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (rly-mg01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.107]) by air-mg05.mail.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMG052-9f64913f5191a; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 02:58:28 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg01.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG018-9f64913f5191a; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 02:58:19 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KyME8-00048x-GV for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 07:57:56 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KyME7-00048o-Dy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 07:57:55 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KyME5-0004vh-TU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Nov 2008 07:57:55 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A8B87B8028 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 08:57:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4430731E703 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 08:57:45 +0100 (CET) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-199.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.199]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDF8031E702 for ; Fri, 7 Nov 2008 08:57:44 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Fri, 07 Nov 2008 08:57:50 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <391646.94239.qm@web28108.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> References: <20081106221146.kmjhdmwut8g0wssk@webmail4.kuleuven.be> <391646.94239.qm@web28108.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20081107075744.DDF8031E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 500 noise - Rik: Yep its in the house! Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_55639250==.ALT" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --=====================_55639250==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pete, fine it was you calling CQ ON. It should be no=20 problem to make a QSO at normal QRN levels (for this time of the year). Last night QRN was as bad as in mid-summer. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T At 01:17 7/11/2008, you wrote: >Ok Rik I think I heard you call but you didn't=20 >hear me reply. Yes it was me calling CQ ON, I=20 >am glad that much got through. There appeared to=20 >be some deep QSB on Mal and GW3UEP who I called=20 >with no result. QRN was also heavy so not a good=20 >night to make the trip. I will do a calling and=20 >listening watch same time tomorrow. > >Good Luck and 73 petefmt > > >--- On Thu, 6/11/08, Rik Strobbe wrote: >From: Rik Strobbe >Subject: Re: LF: 500 noise - Rik: Yep its in the house! >To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 9:11 PM > > >Pete, > > >I guess I heard bits and pieces of your signal. > >A bit later I heard someone calling CQ ON but couldn't get a call. > >But QRN is terrible and propagation seems poor, G3KEV and the DI > >beaccons were weaker than usual. > > >If it keeps dry I'll give it another try tomorrow. > > >73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > >Quoting M0FMT : > > > > Ok Rik I will be lurking on the band I am xtal controlled on 502.3. > > > > > > 73 petefmt > > > > > > --- On Thu, 6/11/08, Rik Strobbe > >wrote: > > > > > > From: Rik Strobbe > > > Subject: Re: LF: 500 noise - Rik: Yep its in the house! > > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > > Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 4:10 PM > > > > > > > > > If WX permits (no rain) I'll try to be QRV tonight (19-21 UT) > > > > > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > > > > > At 16:37 6/11/2008, you wrote: > > > > > > Hi Rik and LF > > > > > > Thanks for pushing me into doing some thing about my 500kc/s noise. > > > You would think a bloke my age would have got to grips with this > > > earlier. You were dead right The noise was coming from a DVD player > > > that was on the face of it switched off. Using a small MW radio > > > proved otherwise. I have to pull the plug out of the wall to shut it > > > up. Surgery with a hammer is planned next!!! > > > > > > Oh yes I am now hearing things again hope to hear you and have that QSO. > > > > > > 73 petefmt > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Mon, 3/11/08, Rik Strobbe > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > From: Rik Strobbe > > > > > > Subject: Re: LF: 500 > > > > > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > > > > > Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 2:50 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Pete, > > > > > > > > > I found out that 90% of the noise on 500kHz came from inside my own > > > house. > > > > > > A lot of electronics is running of switched PSU's and you need just > > > one of > > > > > > these oscillating near 500 kHz to get a lot of noise. > > > > > > I took a small portable AM radio (tuned to the lowest end of the > > > medium wave > > > > > > band =3D abt. 520kHz) to locate the noise sources. Use the ferrite > > > antenna to take > > > > > > null bearings. > > > > > > After replacing a couple of 12V switched PSU's by good old linear > > > ones > > > > > > noise was down by 10's of dB. > > > > > > Another source of noise are energy saving lamps. You can locate them > > > the same > > > > > > way. > > > > > > > > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > > > > > > > > > > > Quoting M0FMT : > > > > > > > > >> Hi Mal and LF > > > > > >> > > > > > >> I would like to be on for two way QSO's however its the old > > > story > > > > > > here I have a high noise level and am not hearing any thing > > > other than local > > > > > > signals. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> I was on the Suffolk coast for this years holiday. I only had > > > a Kenwood > > > > > > TS50 and a 40 metre dipole up. I was hearing just about every > > > thing on > > > > > > 500kc/s. Its not as though I live in a high density area apart > > > from a neighbour > > > > > > either side the nearest other is about 1/4mile away but I do > > > have 11kV at the > > > > > > bottom of the garden which to date has not been a problem. So I > > > suspect an > > > > > > insulator but the noise is not general it is not affecting HF > > > at the moment. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> I have an 8 foot Octagon tuneable and rotatable loop that I > > > am playing > > > > > > with at the moment but so far no real improvement. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Sorry for the tale of woe but we are working on the problem. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Chris XIZ has suggested X band so I may try that shortly. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> 73 petefmt > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> --- On Mon, 3/11/08, mal hamilton > > > wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> From: mal hamilton > > > > > >> Subject: Re: LF: 500 > > > > > >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > > > > >> Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 11:32 AM > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> =C3=AF=C2=BB=C2=BF > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Peter > > > > > >> Listening on 500 recently it looks like the GAS has gone out. > > > > > >> Mal/g3kev > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > >> From: M0FMT > > > > > >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > > > > >> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 11:10 AM > > > > > >> Subject: Re: LF: 500 > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Nice one Warren .... :)) > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Sorry Mal. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> 73 Petefmt > > > > > >> > > > > > >> --- On Sat, 1/11/08, Warren Ziegler > > > wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> From: Warren Ziegler > > > > > >> Subject: Re: LF: 500 > > > > > >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > > > > >> Date: Saturday, 1 November, 2008, 7:24 PM > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Mal, > > > > > >> You have a gas powered TX? > > > > > >> 73 K2ORS > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:55 PM, mal hamilton > > > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > >>> Hi > > > > > >>> Is there anyone listening on 500 ? or am I just burning up > > > gas !! now > > > > > > CQ > > > > > >> for > > > > > >>> a qso on 502.6 > > > > > >>> de g3kev > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> -- > > > > > >> 73 Warren K2ORS > > > > > > > > >> > > > WD2XGJ > > > > > > > > >> > > > WD2XSH/23 > > > > > > > > >> > > > WE2XEB/2 > > > > > > > > >> > > > WE2XGR/1 > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> No virus found in this incoming message. > > > > > >> Checked by AVG - > > > http://www.avg.com > > > > > >> Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1763 - Release > > > Date: 11/2/2008 > > > > > > 7:08 PM > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Disclaimer: > > > > > > http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm for > > > more information. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm --=====================_55639250==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Pete,

fine it was you calling CQ ON. It should be no problem to make a QSO at normal QRN levels (for this time of the year).
Last night QRN was as bad as in mid-summer.

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

At 01:17 7/11/2008, you wrote:
Ok Rik I think I heard you ca= ll but you didn't hear me reply. Yes it was me calling CQ ON,  I am glad that much got through. There appeared to be some deep QSB on Mal and GW3UEP who I called with no result. QRN was also heavy so not a good night to make the trip. I will do a calling and listening watch same time tomorrow.
 
Good Luck and 73 petefmt


--- On Thu, 6/11/08, Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> wrote:
From: Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>
Subject: Re: LF: 500 noise - Rik: Yep its in the house!
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 9:11 PM


Pete,



I guess I heard bits and pieces of your signal.


A bit later I heard someone calling CQ ON but couldn't get a call.


But QRN is terrible and propagation seems poor, G3KEV and the
DI =20


beaccons were weaker than usual.



If it keeps dry I'll give it another try tomorrow.



73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T



Quoting M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>:



> Ok Rik I will be lurking on the band I am xtal controlled on
502.3.


> =20


> 73 petefmt


>


> --- On Thu, 6/11/08, Rik Strobbe
<rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>


wrote:


>


> From: Rik Strobbe <rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>


> Subject: Re: LF: 500 noise - Rik: Yep its in the house!


> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org


> Date: Thursday, 6 November, 2008, 4:10 PM


>


>


> If WX permits (no rain) I'll try to be QRV tonight (19-21 UT)


>


> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


>


> At 16:37 6/11/2008, you wrote:


>


> Hi Rik and LF


> =20


> Thanks for pushing me into doing some thing about my 500kc/s
noise.  =20


> You would think a bloke my age would have got to grips with
this  =20


> earlier. You were dead right The noise was coming from a DVD
player  =20


> that was on the face of it switched off. Using a small MW
radio  =20


> proved otherwise. I have to pull the plug out of the wall to
shut it =20


>  up. Surgery with a hammer is planned next!!!


> =20


> Oh yes I am now hearing things again hope to hear you and have
that QSO.


> =20


> 73 petefmt


> =20


>


>


> --- On Mon, 3/11/08, Rik Strobbe
<Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>


wrote:


>


>


> From: Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>


>


> Subject: Re: LF: 500


>


> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org


>


> Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 2:50 PM


>


>


>


> Hello Pete,


>


>


> I found out that 90% of the noise on 500kHz came from inside my
own


> house.


>


> A lot of electronics is running of switched PSU's and you need
just


> one of


>


> these oscillating near 500 kHz to get a lot of noise.


>


> I took a small portable AM radio (tuned to the lowest end of
the


> medium wave


>


> band =3D abt. 520kHz) to locate the noise sources. Use the
ferrite


> antenna to take


>


> null bearings.


>


> After replacing a couple of 12V switched PSU's by good old
linear


> ones


>


> noise was down by 10's of dB.


>


> Another source of noise are energy saving lamps. You can locate
them


> the same


>


> way.


>


>


> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T


>


>


>


> Quoting M0FMT <m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>:


>


>


>> Hi Mal and LF


>


>> =20


>


>> I would like to be on for two way QSO's however its the old


> story


>


> here I have a high noise level and am not hearing any thing


> other  than local


>


> signals.


>


>> =20


>


>> I was on the Suffolk coast for this years holiday. I only
had


> a  Kenwood


>


> TS50 and a 40 metre dipole up. I was hearing just about 
every


> thing on


>


> 500kc/s. Its not as though I live in a high density  area
apart


> from a neighbour


>


> either side the nearest other is about  1/4mile away but I
do


> have 11kV at the


>


> bottom of the garden which to  date has not been a problem.
So I


> suspect an


>


> insulator but the noise  is not general it is not affecting
HF


> at the moment.


>


>> =20


>


>> I have an 8 foot Octagon tuneable and rotatable loop that I


> am  playing


>


> with at the moment but so far no real improvement.


>


>> =20


>


>> Sorry for the tale of woe but we are working on the
problem.


>


>> =20


>


>> Chris XIZ has suggested X band so I may try that shortly.


>


>> =20


>


>> 73 petefmt


>


>> =20


>


>>


>


>> --- On Mon, 3/11/08, mal hamilton
<g3kevmal@talktalk.net>


> wrote:


>


>>


>


>> From: mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>


>


>> Subject: Re: LF: 500


>


>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org


>


>> Date: Monday, 3 November, 2008, 11:32 AM


>


>>


>


>>


>


>> =C3=AF=C2=BB=C2=BF


>


>>


>


>>


>


>> Peter


>


>> Listening on 500 recently it looks like the GAS has gone
out.


>


>> Mal/g3kev


>


>> =20


>


>>


>


>> ----- Original Message -----


>


>> From: M0FMT


>


>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org


>


>> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 11:10 AM


>


>> Subject: Re: LF: 500


>


>>


>


>>


>


>>


>


>>


>


>>


>


>>


>


>> =20


>


>> =20


>


>> Nice one Warren .... :))


>


>> =20


>


>> Sorry Mal.


>


>> =20


>


>> 73 Petefmt


>


>>


>


>> --- On Sat, 1/11/08, Warren Ziegler
<wd2xgj@gmail.com>


> wrote:


>


>>


>


>> From: Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com>


>


>> Subject: Re: LF: 500


>


>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org


>


>> Date: Saturday, 1 November, 2008, 7:24 PM


>


>>


>


>> Mal,


>


>>       You have a gas powered
TX?


>


>> 73 K2ORS


>


>>


>


>>


>


>> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 2:55 PM, mal hamilton


> <g3kevmal@talktalk.net>


>


>> wrote:


>


>>> Hi


>


>>> Is there anyone listening on 500 ? or am I just burning
up


> gas !! now


>


> CQ


>


>> for


>


>>> a qso on 502.6


>


>>> de g3kev


>


>>>


>


>>>


>


>>


>


>>


>


>>


>


>> --


>


>> 73 Warren K2ORS


>


>



>>           &n=
bsp;    =20


> WD2XGJ


>


>



>>           &n=
bsp;    =20


> WD2XSH/23


>


>



>>           &n=
bsp;    =20


> WE2XEB/2


>


>



>>           &n=
bsp;    =20


> WE2XGR/1


>


>>


>


>>


>


>>


>


>>


>


>>


>


>>


>


>>


>


>> No virus found in this incoming message.


>


>> Checked by AVG -


>
http://www.avg.com


>


>> Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.5/1763 - Release


> Date:  11/2/2008


>


> 7:08 PM


>


>>


>


>>


>


>>


>


>>


>


>


>


>


> Disclaimer:


>


>

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>


>


>


>


> Disclaimer:

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> more information.


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