Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (rly-dc07.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.36]) by air-dc06.mail.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILINDC064-b2d48a4131532a; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:12:35 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc07.mx.aol.com (v121_r2.11) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC071-b2d48a4131532a; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 07:12:23 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1KTajv-0003BB-NF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:11:35 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1KTajv-0003B2-6h for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:11:35 +0100 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1KTajp-0007s1-8z for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 12:11:35 +0100 Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9BA551C1DD for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:11:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98D86F3862 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:11:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.242.4]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 906E1F3863 for ; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:11:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: by webmail2.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix, from userid 65534) id 6E3BC4F74; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:16:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from 83.36-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be (83.36-201-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [80.201.36.83]) by webmail4.kuleuven.be (Horde MIME library) with HTTP; Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:16:57 +0200 Message-ID: <20080814131657.1qufg045oa680o4o@webmail4.kuleuven.be> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 13:16:57 +0200 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <003e01c8fd71$918b0cc0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <8CACBA4268B3E87-238-DA7@FWM-M40.sysops.aol.com> <001501c8fde4$d85a0c50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <001501c8fde4$d85a0c50$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.1.2) X-Originating-IP: 80.201.36.83 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Activity 500 Khz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) An amateur radio license is much more than just a transmitting =20 license. In most cases it permits the holder to experiment, build his =20 own equipment etc ... This in contradiction to most other transmitting licenses such as CB, =20 PMR446 and even (most) "commercial" maritime and aeronautical licenses. 73, Rik ON7YD Quoting mal hamilton : > I always thought an amateur radio licence was a transmitting licence, > otherwise why bother, no licence is required to receive. > G3KEV > ----- Original Message ----- From: > To: > Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 10:39 PM > Subject: Re: LF: Activity 500 Khz > > > > I'm sorry Mal, but just when did it become a given that experimentation > required one to radiate a signal? My licence permits me to do many > things but nowhere do I read an instruction to "transmit". Or perhaps > you believe that I should only have an "old fashioned" artificial > aerial permit? > I'm getting rather fed up with this dialogue which hardly even > qualifies as sensible debate. > > 73 de Pat g4gvw > QTH Near FELIXSTOWE, UK > > Thought for today: > > What politicians do for science, hopefully science will do for them one > day! > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mal hamilton > To: rsgb > Sent: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 19:22 > Subject: LF: Activity 500 Khz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Theere seems to be a lot of opinions and > rheotric here on the reflector about LF and MF but I have never heard > these stations actually transmitting on the bands, so I would guess > they > are not in a position to express an opinion. > > > Surely I am not the only one capable of building > and operating a CW station in the UK/EU on 136 and 500 khz. > > > G3KEV > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > AOL Email goes Mobile! 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