Return-Path: Received: from rly-da03.mx.aol.com (rly-da03.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.77]) by air-da06.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDA063-a5a47cd06671ba; Tue, 04 Mar 2008 03:21:01 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da03.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA032-a5a47cd06671ba; Tue, 04 Mar 2008 03:20:58 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1JWSN1-0003g5-35 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2008 08:19:31 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1JWSN0-0003fw-DJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2008 08:19:30 +0000 Received: from sighthound.demon.co.uk ([80.177.174.126]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JWSMy-0001fX-Cc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Mar 2008 08:19:30 +0000 Received: from lurcher.twatt.local (lurcher.twatt.local [127.0.1.1]) by lurcher.twatt.local (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47E74DA4CC for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2008 08:19:19 +0000 (GMT) Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 08:19:18 +0000 From: John Pumford-Green GM4SLV To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <20080304081918.15bc838e@lurcher.twatt.local> In-Reply-To: <00e101c87d61$518b1bf0$0301a8c0@g3kev> References: <009401c87ae1$0f703020$6901a8c0@AIRPORTTERMINAL> <006801c87b91$9ab77d90$0301a8c0@g3kev> <88d2415e0803010631w71fa0de3hd50725d6c2ae236a@mail.gmail.com> <20080303075900.15456571@lurcher.twatt.local> <00e101c87d61$518b1bf0$0301a8c0@g3kev> Organization: The Gammy Bird X-Mailer: Claws Mail 2.10.0 (GTK+ 2.12.0; i486-pc-linux-gnu) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=0.037,RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP=0.234 Subject: Re: LF: TA on 500kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n LF group. Sorry about the tone of this posting. It will probably be my last message to the LF reflector. I have better, more enjoyable things to do with my time. Mal, On Mon, 3 Mar 2008 19:03:50 -0000 "mal" wrote: > > Give the appliance operating a rest, give the hooving and window > cleaning a break and try a bit of cw operating. If you mean "RST 549 WX SUN QRU 73" which typifies most of your QSOs then I'd rather do the hoovering... > > However, I'm glad others find my investment of radio hardware, PCs & > > internet bandwidth of value to their own experiments. > > A broadband qso is ideal for the appliance operator, what would we do > without it , probably revert to real radio like building a valve tx/rx > system. I've never had a "Broadband QSO". I have had 129 QSOs, all hand sent CW - no "appliance operating" - even my only QRSS contact was hand sent on a straight key. I've got a QSL card from Jack VE1ZZ for the first ever VE/GM x-band 500kHz QSO too if you only consider DX to be of any value. As to building valve tx/rx systems.... nice to see you keeping up with the march of technology. I'm sure the men from OFCOM will be impressed to see the Special Research Permits issued to "cutting edge" amateur radio operators, allowing them to experiment with this allocation, are being used to push the boundaries of radio design! However - I ask you a direct question, Mal... what do you provide back to the MF community during all the hours in the day that you're away from the shack? Apart from emailed taunts, jibes and snide comments? At least by offering a receiver up for public consumption the grabber operators do something for the benefit of others. Until you're personally prepared to devote hardware, and the time to keep it all running, rebooting PCs whenever necessary etc. so that others can make use of your station (when you're not there to operate) then I suggest you refrain from commenting on the usefulness, as you perceive it, of the grabbers that others have selflessly provided, freely, for you to use. If you think they're of no benefit to you,then by all means DON'T LOOK AT THEM, but at the same time SHUT UP ABOUT THEM too. As to you "helpful" email contibutions to the LF reflector and your on-air behaviour - I've had several private emails directly citing your snide comments, public snubbing on-air and generally less then helpful demeanour as being the deciding factor in them pulling out of 500kHz operating altogether. If you want to know why activity is low I suggest you look closer to home than to the "appliance operators" you so love to denigrate. John GM4SLV