Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf06.mx.aol.com (rly-mf06.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.176]) by air-mf05.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF054-96447a185a934e; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 03:24:23 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf06.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF062-96447a185a934e; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 03:24:14 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1JKUhR-0001Mj-O0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 08:23:09 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1JKUhR-0001Ma-9a for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 08:23:09 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JKUhO-0000Bu-OD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 08:23:09 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16B94759C84 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:22:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id D598F31E703 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:22:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-199.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.199]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA2F231E702 for ; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:22:52 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:24:15 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <000801c863ab$49872450$bf5d60cb@SN2941077064> References: <000801c863ab$49872450$bf5d60cb@SN2941077064> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20080131082252.CA2F231E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_10_20=0.945,HTML_FONT_FACE_BAD=0.452,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: water heated by soundwaves Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_78071406==.ALT" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n --=====================_78071406==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed George, ultrasonic waves are "shockwaves" (just like sound, only at higher frequency) that change the density of the medium. A complete different mechanism than electromagnetic waves. If you add energy into the water, no matter how, it will heat and eventually boil. Nothing to be stunned about. Ultrasonic waves have been used for ages to heat stuff. Big advantage is that the energy can be focused to one spot to get local heating. Ultrasonic ovens It has also been proposed as "save alternative" to microwave ovens, but with little success as it turned out to be very expensive to build an oven that would withstand the vibrations. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T At 02:47 31/01/2008, you wrote: >hi a most interesting news item on nz tv..An elderly gent. (90s) has >got a device where he inserts a sphere into a large tumble of water >and after a short period the warter boils..he says its done bye >ultra sonics...It has stunned professors and science standards...he >wont let on much...thats the million dollar question just ??? i got >a feeling the highfreqency audio electric current is heating the >water ..BUT IS IT....george zl3pn Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm --=====================_78071406==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" George,

ultrasonic waves are "shockwaves" (just like sound, only at higher frequency) that change the density of the medium. A complete different mechanism than electromagnetic waves.
If you add energy into the water, no matter how, it will heat and eventually boil. Nothing to be stunned about.
Ultrasonic waves have been used for ages to heat stuff. Big advantage is that the energy can be focused to one spot to get local heating.
Ultrasonic ovens It has also been proposed as "save alternative" to microwave ovens, but with little success as it turned out to be very expensive to build an oven that would withstand the vibrations.

73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T

At 02:47 31/01/2008, you wrote:
hi a most interesting news item on nz tv..An elderly gent. (90s) has got a device where he inserts a sphere into a large tumble of water and after a short period the warter boils..he says its done bye ultra sonics...It has stunned professors and science standards...he wont let on much...thats the million dollar question just ??? i got a feeling the highfreqency audio electric current is heating the water ..BUT IS IT....george zl3pn


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