Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (rly-mf08.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.178]) by air-mf09.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMF093-9734795f7031f2; Tue, 22 Jan 2008 09:00:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf08.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF081-9734795f7031f2; Tue, 22 Jan 2008 09:00:37 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1JHJfH-0005Us-Rj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:59:47 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1JHJfF-0005Uj-62 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:59:45 +0000 Received: from thumbler.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be ([134.58.240.45]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JHJfB-0007sV-Nk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:59:45 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thumbler.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD8471387BD for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2008 14:59:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (smtpshost02.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.75]) by thumbler.kulnet.kuleuven.ac.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCC2A1387DD for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2008 14:57:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtps02.kuleuven.be (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81B7AF3863; Tue, 22 Jan 2008 14:57:12 +0100 (CET) Received: from dell-rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-199.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.199]) by smtps02.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D7C8F3862 for ; Tue, 22 Jan 2008 14:57:12 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 14:58:24 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <000501c85c3d$4fa2f820$0b01a8c0@weazle> References: <000501c85c3d$4fa2f820$0b01a8c0@weazle> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20080122135712.5D7C8F3862@smtps02.kuleuven.be> X-Virus-Scanned: by KULeuven Antivirus Cluster X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Fenceline longwire Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n J.B. , I simulated the fence wire with MMANA. On HF (80m, 40m) I got the expected (bi)directivity and low offset angle. But on 500kHz the horizontal pattern is almost omnidirectional and the offset angle is 78 degrees. It seems that (at least in theory) even 1200 foot is too short to be long on 500kHz ... Or does MMANA not work properly ? 73, Rik ON7YD At 15:52 21/01/2008, you wrote: >Hello LFers & Lowfers, > >I've been testing a 1200 foot end fed longwire mounted on >an existing fence-line and coupled to the receiver with a >3:1 turns ratio isolation transformer. The antenna is 3 >feet off the ground, with the far end left un-terminated. >The "ground" for the cold end of the antenna winding is >a stainless steel screwnail driven into the trunk of a >cedar tree at ground level. > >The antenna is aligned 50/230 degrees true, which from my >QTH favours Europe/UK off the front and the mid-west U.S. >off the back. Listening to ATC frequencies from Gander >and Shanwick in the 2500 to 3000 kHz. range, the longwire >is several S units stronger and MUCH quieter than my 80 M >inverted V. > >On 500 kHz. I've been able to copy the XGR transmissions >with better signal strength than off my PA0RDT mini-whip >or untuned delta loop. The same holds true for listening >around the broadcast LW & MW bands or NDB chasing. >The greatest advantage is that signals are well above the >noise on the longwire. > >Thinking outside the box can sometimes yield a surprising >result, if that's the only option you've got! > >73, J.B., VE3EAR - VE3WZL >Solar and wind powered >Lowfer " EAR" 188.830 >EN93dr > >http://www.hurontel.on.ca/~weazle Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm