Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (rly-dc03.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.32]) by air-dc07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINDC074-b134722452724d; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:51:13 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc03.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC037-b134722452724d; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 15:51:05 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IlVCr-0004ZV-6Q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:50:57 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IlVCq-0004ZM-Kd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:50:56 +0100 Received: from smtp2e.orange.fr ([80.12.242.111]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IlVCm-000190-Tc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:50:56 +0100 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf2e29.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 6A49A7000094 for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:50:47 +0200 (CEST) Received: from JR (unknown [193.249.231.60]) by mwinf2e29.orange.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id C092C700008C for ; Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:50:45 +0200 (CEST) X-ME-UUID: 20071026195045788.C092C700008C@mwinf2e29.orange.fr Message-ID: <200710262150370368.128F2778@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <000b01c8171a$bc076950$06cdfc3e@g3kev> References: <200710231851550500.02786762@smtp.wanadoo.fr> <000b01c8171a$bc076950$06cdfc3e@g3kev> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:50:37 +0200 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: loran Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : Mal, Many thanks for the comments. If it is okay with you, I would like to incor= porate them in a note on Loran for the next CREG Journal. John F5VLF/G3PAI *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 25/10/2007 at 15:20 hamilton mal wrote: >John, >Loran is now audible clicking away since it moved to its new location, when >located at Rugby it was just about visible but not audible with me. >My loop antenna is E/W and if its located West from me I suppose it will be >fairly strong, whereas at Rugby south from me it was in my loop null, more >or less. >I have not carried out any exact measurements, since it did not bother me >in >the past. > >MalG3KEV > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "John RABSON" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 4:51 PM >Subject: LF: Re: loran > > >Thank you everyone for your observations. > >Quoting from my article on eLORAN in CREGJ issue 67 (and referring in >particular to 87-90kHz): > >"Assuming the Anthorn station has the same ERP as Rugby, rough calculations >suggest that the interference level in the North Yorkshire area would >increase by about 4dB, the level in the Peak District would decrease by the >same amount, and the level in the Swansea Valley would decrease by about >5dB. > >How far these changes will be noticeable will depend of course on the >strength of other LORAN transmission." > >Can anybody (Mal?) tie up their observations with these estimates, please? > >73 >John F5VLF/G3PAI > >*********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** > >On 22/10/2007 at 20:06 Dave G3WCB wrote: > >>Dear Gary, LF, >> >>Thanks for the report and screenshot. I have been repairing my antenna, >>re-attaching all the bits that had dropped off during the summer! Power >200 >>RF, giving 1,5A aerial current. >> >>No sign of any extra Loran lines of any strength down here. I see faint >>lines, but they could be from Europe. Nothing detectable by ear. >> >>73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of Gary - G4WGT >>Sent: 22 October 2007 19:42 >>To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>Subject: LF: Re: loran >> >> >>Hi Mal, LF, >> >>After seeing your earlier mail I put the Rx on 137 KHz to make comparisons >>with captures from earlier in the year. It looks like there are about 50 % >>more LORAN lines on todays captures at my QTH compared with my previous >>ones. >> >>I was also able to see & hear Dave G3WCB in QRSS & was able to audibly >copy >>his CW ID. I also saw a DL in QRSS mode but was much weaker & got burried >>in >>noise. >> >>73 >> >>Gary - G4WGT - IO83qp >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "hamilton mal" >>To: "rsgb" >>Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 6:33 PM >>Subject: LF: loran >> >> >>> It seems that I am the only one to observe the new UK loran on 137 khz. >I >>> did see one UK stn active on qrs 3, only visible, vy poor signal. >>> I am active but CW only for UK stns and qrv for DX on qrs3 but not qrs >>500 >>> etc, it is not necessry. >>> 73 G3KEV >>> >>> >>> >>>