X-GM-THRID: 1212170039215454192 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: c2af39aacf9dfdc2ef61f576d47f2cde82a35fb4 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.16 with SMTP id w16cs258574qbh; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 13:14:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.29.3 with SMTP id g3mr969910nfj; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 13:14:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q27si1049738nfc.2006.08.22.13.14.28; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 13:14:29 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: good (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GFcWS-0001bI-NJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 21:06:52 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GFcWS-0001b9-6U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 21:06:52 +0100 Received: from web86502.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.127]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1GFcWL-0002iy-Rd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 21:06:52 +0100 Received: (qmail 19958 invoked by uid 60001); 22 Aug 2006 20:05:39 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=qBR/W9ayfgIJ4i0MSzY8qRZVus3fI902t1rK2HWBzZoIjwZzzHdJ5HrKNU1Z5zCKzwyteoScim2zodl2MBoFSCDcm5u4FoigKjPm7ldWAuEyK1YVft7ow8whcbbGTeBXSs4ZP/ADS8cLnKc3VZDZR4fbVOn4qvFKJxKIvKMdOnE= ; Message-ID: <20060822200539.19956.qmail@web86502.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Received: from [86.132.250.159] by web86502.mail.ird.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 22 Aug 2006 21:05:39 BST Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2006 21:05:39 +0100 (BST) From: LECH LASZKIEWICZ To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <20060819231248.81fh9er3m1ogkswk@webmail3.kuleuven.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_10_20=0.295,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: TIP: modifiying X-tals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1380355512-1156277139=:18799" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 7040 --0-1380355512-1156277139=:18799 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I etched my crystals with hydrofluoric (not hydrochloric) acid.This acid is extremely dangerous and deadly. It can only be stored in raw rubber bottles or bottles coated inside with bees wax (not synthetic). You are not likely to be able to buy it anywhere without a permit, fortunately. A little less deadly is phosphoric acid but it is much slower in action. You can grind crystals on a flat glass panel with a little of very fine carborundum powder mixed to a paste with paraffin. Rub gently pressing with one finger describing a letter 8. You can also gring the crystal plate edgewise. A little at a time does the trick but it is tedious work. Good luck de Lech G3KAU Rik Strobbe wrote: I even used sandpaper to make the quarz thinner and thus increase the frequency. That worked sometimes up to 10%. 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T Quoting riese-k3djc@juno.com: > In the ol days we would use a pencil or rub a bit of solder on the face > real hams used ? acid to etch and raise the frequency,, I dont remember > what the acid was but the local chemical company would sell a bit > > drill a hole in the mount face, tap it and use a screw to apply > pressure and move the frequency around > > Bob K3DJC > > > On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:16:13 +0200 "Dick" writes: > For those who didn't know, use following 'trick' to tune your own X-tal. > (found it in a magazine from the VERON) > > Take an permant marker pen ("Edding, or similar) and put a little > stripe/line on the X-tal plate. > You will notice that the frequency goes down a bit. Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm --0-1380355512-1156277139=:18799 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
I etched my crystals with hydrofluoric (not hydrochloric) acid.This acid is extremely dangerous and deadly. It can only be stored in raw rubber bottles or bottles coated inside with bees wax (not synthetic). You are not likely to be able to buy it anywhere without a permit, fortunately. A little less deadly is phosphoric acid but it is much slower in action. You can grind crystals on a flat glass panel with a little of very fine carborundum powder mixed to a paste with paraffin. Rub gently pressing with one finger describing a letter 8. You can also gring  the crystal plate edgewise. A little at a time does the trick but it is tedious work.
Good luck  de Lech G3KAU

Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be> wrote:
I even used sandpaper to make the quarz thinner and thus increase the
frequency. That worked sometimes up to 10%.

73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting riese-k3djc@juno.com:

> In the ol days we would use a pencil or rub a bit of solder on the face
> real hams used ? acid to etch and raise the frequency,, I dont remember
> what the acid was but the local chemical company would sell a bit
>
> drill a hole in the mount face, tap it and use a screw to apply
> pressure and move the frequency around
>
> Bob K3DJC
>
>
> On Sat, 19 Aug 2006 21:16:13 +0200 "Dick" writes:
> For those who didn't know, use following 'trick' to tune your own X-tal.
> (found it in a magazine from the VERON)
>
> Take an permant marker pen ("Edding, or similar) and put a little
> stripe/line on the X-tal plate.
> You will notice that the frequency goes down a bit.



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