X-GM-THRID: 1209220135401178140 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: f8416d33760661d9c914851d3843ab6366d4811b Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.243.13 with SMTP id q13cs145403qbh; Tue, 18 Jul 2006 04:16:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.21.8 with SMTP id y8mr602798nfi; Tue, 18 Jul 2006 04:16:29 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id r34si714336nfc.2006.07.18.04.16.27; Tue, 18 Jul 2006 04:16:29 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) DomainKey-Status: good (test mode) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1G2nRu-0007FP-Eu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Jul 2006 12:09:10 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1G2nRt-0007FG-PH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Jul 2006 12:09:09 +0100 Received: from web25409.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.176.227]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1G2nRp-0005uo-GT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 18 Jul 2006 12:09:09 +0100 Received: (qmail 11078 invoked by uid 60001); 18 Jul 2006 11:07:59 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=cr5yNSHK6eIx31t4S6vv7TN7Ki2xHuoZ8KymuVl51CNxBxwVUhyeFkKs1Zuu47xxCUs/OxncCo9rxa1jIqSg4fV1KYuOFfqtxUXlGuVQHebjDtt+Wm79oWI+U1B9L1b8u0poVAhHbxR7MFBLoX3WSSyeJKVkTFoxNtIsWhbO32A= ; Message-ID: <20060718110759.11076.qmail@web25409.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Received: from [213.78.182.231] by web25409.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 18 Jul 2006 12:07:59 BST Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 12:07:59 +0100 (BST) From: brian hodgson To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <001201c6aa42$e08f77e0$0300a8c0@lark> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: -0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.740,HTML_20_30=0.504,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: RF Ammeter Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1067508592-1153220879=:9473" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5130 --0-1067508592-1153220879=:9473 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi J I agree with what Alan says - I've made up three "clamp-on" ammeters using split-core EMC ferrites (500 mA, 2 amp & 15 amp) - they seem to work very well - even up to 4MHz. The two halves of ferrite are glued (expoy resin) to the jaws of strong "hand clamps" with the other components (meter, diode, resistors etc) stuck to the clamp with plastic wood filler. However, for fixed meters eg transmitter output and aerial matching units, I use the regular EMC cores (similar size to the split ones but all in one piece - rather like very large ferrite beads). Its easy to wind the secondary (10 - 20 turns thin enammelled copper wire) and the primary is just the aerial wire poked through the hole. I've also used a 25 mm diam toroid for a 30 amp meter - there wasn't enough space inside the big bead for the 60 turn secondary. GL - Brian (G3YKB) Alan Melia wrote: Toroid splitting seems a lot of effort when you can use an "EMC" split core for the transducer quickly and without a lot of effort. --------------------------------- To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. --0-1067508592-1153220879=:9473 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Hi J
 
I agree with what Alan says - I've made up three "clamp-on" ammeters using split-core EMC ferrites (500 mA, 2 amp & 15 amp) - they seem to work very well - even up to 4MHz. The two halves of ferrite are glued (expoy resin) to the jaws of strong "hand clamps" with the other components (meter, diode, resistors etc) stuck to the clamp with plastic wood filler.
 
However, for fixed meters eg transmitter output and aerial matching units, I use the regular EMC cores (similar size to the split ones but all in one piece - rather like very large ferrite beads). Its easy to wind the secondary (10 - 20 turns thin enammelled copper wire) and the primary is just the aerial wire poked through the hole. I've also used a 25 mm diam toroid for a 30 amp meter - there wasn't enough space inside the big bead for the 60 turn secondary.
 
GL - Brian (G3YKB) 

Alan Melia <alan.melia@btinternet.com> wrote:

Toroid splitting seems a lot of effort when you can use an "EMC" split core
for the transducer quickly and without a lot of effort.


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