X-GM-THRID: 1208214225480177241 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 4bf9585506c5d2666984c67c5df8ff9b6be60435 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.17 with SMTP id w17cs192457qbh; Fri, 7 Jul 2006 06:16:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.43.12 with SMTP id v12mr1410241nfj; Fri, 07 Jul 2006 06:16:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id l27si9366976nfa.2006.07.07.06.16.14; Fri, 07 Jul 2006 06:16:15 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fyq7v-0000S0-TD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Jul 2006 14:12:11 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fyq7v-0000Rr-0x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Jul 2006 14:12:11 +0100 Received: from m11.nyc.untd.com ([64.136.22.74]) by relay2.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fyq7q-0003Po-QX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Jul 2006 14:12:10 +0100 Received: from m11.nyc.untd.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by m11.nyc.untd.com with SMTP id AABCL6ZMXAMP9ST2 for (sender ); Fri, 7 Jul 2006 06:11:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from cw4ever4@juno.com) by m11.nyc.untd.com (jqueuemail) id LUN8TZA4; Fri, 07 Jul 2006 06:10:27 PDT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2006 09:05:06 -0400 Message-ID: <20060707.090507.784.1.CW4EVER4@juno.com> X-Mailer: Juno 4.0.5 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Juno-Line-Breaks: 2-3,5-48 X-Juno-Att: 0 X-Juno-RefParts: 0 From: R obert H Reif X-ContentStamp: 18:9:135941800 X-MAIL-INFO:0e4155c03020a40c717d113020b4003181543111356d54a9b5 X-UNTD-OriginStamp: g21GJOtXAsiQ/71APa81vpFnat5W1Vn8I5NCRqaJYBIQr9RFMpNDCQ== X-UNTD-Peer-Info: 127.0.0.1|localhost|m11.nyc.untd.com|cw4ever4@juno.com X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.256,FROM_HAS_MIXED_NUMS=0.298 Subject: Re: LF: Antenna Tuning Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=FROM_HAS_MIXED_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5027 You might try un grounding the tower and tieing it to the antenna feed point. The grounded tower may be confusing the tuning so give that a try. 73 Bob W1XP On Fri, 7 Jul 2006 03:24:09 -0000 "J. Allen" writes: > The tower is grounded at its base at this time, but is up on > insulators and > can be ungrounded easily by disconnecting a 1/0 grounding conductor. > > The vertical portion of the antenna is a piece of coaxial cable > spaced about > 4 feet away from the tower. > > Still no luck finding the first resonant point. All points have been > checked > from 20 kHz through 250 kHz. It acts like I have a big capacitor > connected > to the end of the coax. At the base of the antenna, I have > installed a > relay and can switch between the dummy load and the antenna base > loading > network. Whatever is wrong is wrong on the antenna side of that > relay. If > the dummy load is put on the other connector it acts as a dummy > should, so > the problem is not in the relay or its connection. If I substitute > a lumped > constant for the antenna, the traces are as expected with the scope. > > I just do not seem to be able to find a resonant point using a > frequency > divider and tiny amp. The scope traces are either sine wave traces > but with > the voltage and current out of phase, or else really convoluted > forms which > are in phase. > > I am still at step one. How to I get the two waveforms to coincide > and at > the same time have them look like sinewaves? > > Any ideas where to go with this now? > > "J" > > > >