Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 10:33:33 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F5hD2-00018J-Bv for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 05 Feb 2006 10:33:33 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore01.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1F5hD2-00017u-5d for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Sun, 05 Feb 2006 10:33:32 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1F5hCI-0001YW-6n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Feb 2006 10:32:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1F5hCH-0001YN-RC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Feb 2006 10:32:45 +0000 Received: from smtp1.wanadoo.fr ([193.252.22.30]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1F5iXK-0007Z3-VO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 05 Feb 2006 11:58:51 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf0101.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 452691C0025B for ; Sun, 5 Feb 2006 11:32:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from john-b5a82ea1a4 (Mix-Dijon-116-1-49.w193-250.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.250.132.49]) by mwinf0101.wanadoo.fr (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 437BA1C00259; Sun, 5 Feb 2006 11:32:03 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20060205103203276.437BA1C00259@mwinf0101.wanadoo.fr Message-ID: <200602051131570102.0488A03E@smtp.wanadoo.fr> In-Reply-To: <007001c62a34$97e808b0$2101a8c0@AUG2004> References: <007001c62a34$97e808b0$2101a8c0@AUG2004> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (K) Date: Sun, 05 Feb 2006 11:31:57 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: r.gill@bcra.org.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: {Spam?} Active_antennas Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) G8DSU has been doing some measurements on height gain at UHF and is also interested in active antennas at LF for cave radio purposes. I will copy this to him because I'm not sure whether he is currently reading this list. John G3PAI *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 05/02/2006 at 09:14 Walter Blanchard wrote: >The theory behind the "height gain" observed using small LF active >antennas at different heights has to do with compression of the near-earth >LF potential gradient caused by the grounded "mast" holding the antenna. >The essential bit is that there is a grounded connection between the >antenna and receiver, which may be just the outer of the co-ax cable. It >would be an interesting experiment to repeat the "height gain" experiment >without any connection to ground. This could be done by building an active >antenna with a little transmitter to re-radiate the received LF signal (on >2.4 GHz?) and poking it up using a fibreglass mast. If the theory is right >then there wouldn't be any height gain. Might do it myself sometime but >anyone else interested? > > Walter G3JKV.