Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21770 invoked from network); 7 Feb 2001 23:58:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by 10.226.25.101 with SMTP; 7 Feb 2001 23:58:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 6457 invoked from network); 8 Feb 2001 00:02:33 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 8 Feb 2001 00:02:33 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14QeQ1-0000KO-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Feb 2001 23:54:37 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from mozart.unetsul.com.br ([200.247.254.3]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14QePy-0000KJ-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 07 Feb 2001 23:54:35 +0000 Received: from mailman.endymion.com (mozart.unetsul.com.br [200.247.254.3]) by mozart.unetsul.com.br (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA50465 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 21:55:25 -0200 (EDT) (envelope-from py2pll@py.qsl.br) Message-ID: <200102072355.VAA50465@mozart.unetsul.com.br> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: py2pll@py.qsl.br Subject: LF: Re: SWR X phase X reactive components Date: Wed, 7 Feb 101 23:55:25 +0000 X-Mailer: Endymion MailMan v2.0 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi Bob . . . > > You are venturing into the "operating impedance bridge" (OIB) idea. An > article with some information is "Building an Operating Impedance Bridge" in > QST, Nov 1979, pp 11-17. I think this same OIB was published by ARRL Handbook from 1984 or something like that. Uses a linear sampler + some metal hardware assembled properly .. > I gather that the OIB can work while the > transmitter is in normal service, and R and jX can be read from calibrated > knobs on pots on the secondary side, after a null is found by adjustment. Yes, I remember that. But I'm trying to make it similar to Kachina SWR bridge. And there they use this kind of directional coupler (2 ferrite transformers) and a TTL Dual D flip flop to detect phase and transform this in voltage. So there is 3 voltages and no need to operate anything. A SBL1 mixer can detect phase differences with LO/RF between 3 ... 7dBm within 1° or less from 1 to 500MHz. Ok, that's not LF but the Dual D Flip-flop can be used from some Hertz to 35MHz. The idea is a bench bridge + some micro-controller / portable bug and running from some mW to a watt or so ... Thanks on the info. May be for now a RX noise bridge can do the job :o) 73 Marcus, PY2PLL(Base) / PY3CRX (Mobile) GG66rf - S. B. do Campo - SP hampage => http://py.qsl.br e-mail => py2pll@py.qsl.br Active from DC to 24GHz