Return-Path: Received: (qmail 22399 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2001 16:05:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by extortion.plus.net with SMTP; 23 Jan 2001 16:05:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 11950 invoked from network); 23 Jan 2001 16:08:16 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 23 Jan 2001 16:08:16 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14L5u7-0001BS-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 16:02:43 +0000 Received: from indyweb.cgocable.ca ([205.151.69.200]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14L5u5-0001BN-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 16:02:42 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from 220-134.lr.cgocable.ca (220-134.lr.cgocable.ca [24.226.220.134]) by indyweb.cgocable.ca (8.9.3 (MessagingDirect 1.0.4)/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA244573 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2001 11:02:28 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <200101231602.LAA244573@indyweb.cgocable.ca> X-Sender: bill1@cgocable.ca X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 1.5.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2001 11:01:00 -0500 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Bill de Carle" Subject: Re: LF: R Larry's signals last night 22/23 Jan Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: At 02:28 PM 1/23/01 -0000, you wrote: >> Regarding I/Q sampling (is this the same as the old 11+ >> selection, hi?) and >> filtering and smoothing to extract the phase, can we have a >> program please, >> so that we can join in the fun? > >You will need the hardware, something like a 56002EVM that I use to do >all the high speed ( ! ) DSP >Sorry ! >Unless someone can be persuaded to write something similar for the >soundcard. >If 8 bit sampling is good enough - it usually is if no strong signals >appear in the IF passband that exceed the noise by more than 30dB - one >of the sampling options on my PIC based interface serial A/D will I/Q >sample a 750 - 1250 bandwidth centred on 1kHz and a PC can do the rest. >A commercial version is available from HF-Instruments >WWW.HF-INST.CO.UK NIAGARA can do it using a Sigma-Delta interface (available from me) or it can use a sound card if it's based on the ES688 chip. At this moment I haven't coded for SB16-type sound cards because the one I'm using in my laptop is an ES688. I'll put the command into NIAGARA today to output the same (.wjs) file format Andy uses. Is that OK with you Andy? With NIAGARA using its 1000x magnification mode you get an effective sampling rate of 8.2 samples per second - and bin widths similar to what we've been playing with. And it now has a screen capture to write a colour .BMP output file. >Saving raw data overcomes the problems of setting wrong colour >thresholds, FFT sizes and the like and means you can go back and replot, >changing any parameter at will. Saving two 16 bit numbers per sample >means 24 hours recording at 3.9Hz (8000Hz / 2048) generates a file of >just 1.35 Meg. Again, NIAGARA now has the capability to change the threshold settings and re-compute the entire screen so you don't have to wait another 6 hours for another screenful to come in before you see if you've chosen the right setting, hi! And it can process pre-recorded raw audio. I have several programs here that can save raw audio, you're welcome to try any of them. Bill VE2IQ