Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8980 invoked from network); 18 Dec 2000 23:23:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 18 Dec 2000 23:23:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 18867 invoked from network); 18 Dec 2000 23:18:45 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior with SMTP; 18 Dec 2000 23:18:45 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 1489Qx-0005TU-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 23:11:07 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] ident=root) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 1489Qu-0005TP-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 23:11:05 +0000 Received: from central.zetnet.co.uk (central.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.20]) by irwell.zetnet.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id XAA02067 for ; Mon, 18 Dec 2000 23:10:57 GMT X-ZSender: g3ldo@zetnet.co.uk Message-ID: <2000121823082968199@zetnet.co.uk> Date: Mon, 18 Dec 2000 23:08:29 GMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Peter Dodd" X-Mailer: ZIMACS Version 1.20c 10000836 Subject: Re: LF: Guard Circuit Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Jim said: > Aha... wondered why you hadn't mentioned it before - > unfortunately, the guard circuit is not shown in the simplified > diagram in the LF handbook. > What it is - the tank coil has a link winding on it. This feeds the 'AC' > side of a bridge rectifier made up of 4 fast diodes, via a series > leakage inductance tuning capacitor. the 'DC' side is connected to > some big plastic film reservoir capacitors, and then across the PA > supply rail. In fig 3.20 in the handbook, it is assembled on the 3 > heatsinks largely concealed by the tank capacitor boards. At the time I put the Low Frequency Handbook together I had not done any work regarding the modification of the Decca transmitter. I felt that the circuit should be included in a simplified form because it showed a design not in use by amateurs at the time. Furthermore, no one else had any experience of this type of PA circuit and I didn't know how the guard circuit worked; and it is only possible to simplify a circuit whose function is understood. Andy sent me the data sheet on the bridge configuration PA driver and that was included in the Appendix. I can confirm that the guard circuit works if the output is short circuited. I had shorted the output of each amplifier at the output of the tank circuits so that I could measure the tank resonances. I forgot to remove the shorts when I fired the transmitter up the first time. The only indication that anything was wrong was the output current was zero and each of the amplifier guard circuits indicated current flow. When the shorts were removed the guard current fell to zero and the dummy load got very hot. I have never noticed any guard current during normal operation - even when tuning. I think they only seem to come into play in the case of a severe mismatch -- Regards, Peter, G3LDO