Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dc09.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dc09.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.137]) by air-de03.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDE034-5ead4b5a219c359; Fri, 22 Jan 2010 17:07:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-dc09.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 324E93800009E; Fri, 22 Jan 2010 17:07:22 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NYRe2-00047e-Od for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 22 Jan 2010 22:06:22 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NYRe2-00047V-7U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 22 Jan 2010 22:06:22 +0000 Received: from mail-pz0-f191.google.com ([209.85.222.191]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NYRe0-0007zs-1D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 22 Jan 2010 22:06:22 +0000 Received: by pzk29 with SMTP id 29so1421305pzk.17 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 2010 14:06:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=IjrDVuK53FYHsFvZkZcsmWWpRxpBOADEnh8/0eTHngg=; b=iV/Ouz8lr5Oimgh0BammWfOXuKGFMK8jiO0TBAptoQ4O9499DRZ1JGeSPPmrwpux3a V81wobHQrRgamA7VniiGOEYlJPECE9yNO9rAjs9h2CLsjW2KceM4eTqTq2d6Lipuu0/7 P43lz47ZF8lU1xgON8XXM9X0gEAX7jnGPeQa4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=WEueJrn4bWG73ujVHPt30Um3IiN6BQeBDOff1hMz9KVZHMFqgAgonsdB+lM9OhBHv+ QVexwtlBTcV0QUhi9dvpx9T5J+NqmGdRceWqypehcvNQPPuFyErf8ewUzFEbJsm9XoJ8 xnJmVr/np/YftWkhjSj6HGiFO4reNOFYlgYZQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.141.89.20 with SMTP id r20mr2398059rvl.250.1264197971611; Fri, 22 Jan 2010 14:06:11 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20100122224744.x4s9d55a28o444sw@webmail6.kuleuven.be> References: <1f0624b91001221140ib63e25fqf514c9fc604be78c@mail.gmail.com> <20100122220657.0kvbv3do0s48kwo4@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <20100122221736.upoqvds57owwk48s@webmail6.kuleuven.be> <1f0624b91001221330l439fda94ic5727d558f9b42a@mail.gmail.com> <20100122224744.x4s9d55a28o444sw@webmail6.kuleuven.be> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 22:06:11 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: fc34286d4fca630c Message-ID: <1f0624b91001221406i43452a27wd87c26c0dc9f16b9@mail.gmail.com> From: Gary - G4WGT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 500 kHz JT4A Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd13a0a061239047dc807ad X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40894b5a219a3160 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --000e0cd13a0a061239047dc807ad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Rik, Thanks for the report & pleased you are getting decodes now. If you click the mouse on the "Tol" setting box. left click down, right click up, take it down & click freeze, that will freeze the decode bandwidth to a narrower bandpass. But don't forget to click on the wanted signal first. That will exclude any signal from outside that "Tol" setting indicated by the red marker line on the scale at the top. Read the manual Rik, it seems a bit complicated but you will soon catch on :-)) 73, Gary - G4WGT. 2010/1/22 Rik Strobbe > Gary, > > OK, I just decoded you (see previous mail). > But signals are that strong that CW would be armchair copy. > I guess I have to figure out the sync problem (as I understand a good value > would be 20 or more). > Inituitive I assume that tuning into a signal is done by clicking on the > trace, but even if I click on your signal (and see a marker on your freq.) > most of the time it is still decoding Jim. > Another odd thing: when I decode you you get the same "dB" value (-2) as > Jim, while Jim's signal is a lot stronger. > > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > > Quoting Gary - G4WGT : > > Rik, >> >> That will be me on 503.600 kHz. I will put the power up a bit. >> >> 73, Gary - G4WGT >> >> 2010/1/22 Rik Strobbe > Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>> >> >> As said I haven't read any instructions / manual but maybe the figures >> WSJT7 spits out on the readable copies of Jim may give a clue: >> Sync = 9 >> dB = -2 >> DT = 0.0 >> DF = -107 >> W = 33 >> >> 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T >> >> >> Quoting Rik Strobbe > Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>>: >> >> Hello Gary, Jim, >> >> I just fired up WSJT7 in JT4A mode. >> I can see a very fat trace at 503.460 that decodes as "TEST M0BMU" and >> a little less fat trace at 503.600 that is probably Gary. But even if >> I set the marker on 503.600 (1300Hz audio) I still keep decoding "TEST >> M0BMU". >> It is my first test with JT4A and I haven't read the instructions / >> manual, so it is intuitive use. >> >> 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T >> >> PS: both signals are clearly audible (Jim is S7) >> >> Quoting Gary - G4WGT >: >> >> LF, >> >> I will be beaconing WSJT JT4A again this evening & I would welcome >> any decodes, I have made changes in view of not decoding a reply >> last night. I just need to confirm my outgoing signal before >> changing Tx operation to CQ calls. >> >> 502.300 kHz USB dial frequency. Tx 503.600 kHz on even minutes. >> >> 73, >> >> Gary - G4WGT. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > --000e0cd13a0a061239047dc807ad Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rik,

Thanks for the report & pleased you are gettin= g decodes now.

If you click the mouse on the &quo= t;Tol" setting box. left click down, right click up, take it down &am= p; click freeze, that will freeze the decode bandwidth to a narrower bandp= ass. But don't forget to click on the wanted signal first. That will= exclude any signal from outside that "Tol" setting indicated by= the red marker line on the scale at the top.

Read the manual Rik, it seems a bit complicated but yo= u will soon catch on :-))

73, =A0Gary - G4WGT.


2010/1/22 Rik Strobbe <Rik.Strobbe@fy= s.kuleuven.be>
Gary,

OK, I just decoded you (see previous mail).
But signals are that strong that CW would be armchair copy.
I guess I have to figure out the sync problem (as I understand a good valu= e would be 20 or more).
Inituitive I assume that tuning into a signal is done by clicking on the= trace, but even if I click on your signal (and see a marker on your freq.= ) most of the time it is still decoding Jim.
Another odd thing: when I decode you you get the same "dB" value= (-2) as Jim, while Jim's signal is a lot stronger.

73, Rik =A0ON7YD - OR7T

Quoting Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>:

Rik,

That will be me on 503.600 kHz. I will put the power up a bit.

73, =A0Gary - G4WGT

2010/1/22 Rik Strobbe =A0<Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be<mailto:Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleu= ven.be>>

As said I haven't read any instructions / manual but maybe the =A0figu= res WSJT7 spits out on the readable copies of Jim may give a clue:
Sync =3D 9
dB =3D -2
DT =3D 0.0
DF =3D -107
W =3D 33

73, Rik =A0ON7YD - OR7T


Quoting Rik Strobbe =A0<Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be<mailto:Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuv= en.be>>:

Hello Gary, Jim,

I just fired up WSJT7 in JT4A mode.
I can see a very fat trace at 503.460 that decodes as "TEST M0BMU&quo= t; and
a little less fat trace at 503.600 that is probably Gary. But even if
I set the marker on 503.600 (1300Hz audio) I still keep decoding "TES= T
M0BMU".
It is my first test with JT4A and I haven't read the instructions / manual, so it is intuitive use.

73, Rik =A0ON7YD - OR7T

PS: both signals are clearly audible (Jim is S7)

Quoting Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk<mailto:g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>>:

LF,

I will be beaconing WSJT JT4A again this evening & I would welcome
any decodes, I have made changes in view of not decoding a reply
last night. I just need to confirm my outgoing signal before
changing Tx operation to CQ calls.

502.300 kHz USB dial frequency. Tx 503.600 kHz on even minutes.

73,

Gary - G4WGT.














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